tubular locks

by **R0gue** » 2 Apr 2004 1:05

Which is the most popular tool for tubular locks? the 7 or the 8 pin?
Which ones do coke machines and things of the such use?

by **David_Parker** » 2 Apr 2004 6:13

I think 7 pin is more popular. Not sure though, my experience with these is limited to the 't'.

Most coke machines (from what I've seen...and I look all - the - time) use Abloy or someother secure, large padlock guarding the lock.

You'll only find tubular on private or low, old cost machines. Small businesses might own them, meaning that they have a key and buy the drinks separatly and reap in the profit. (at least thats what my last two jobs did, others might know otherwise)

-Dave.

by **Varjeal** » 2 Apr 2004 10:14

From what I've seen seven pin is the most popular as well, with the exceptions stated above using Abloy, or beat up machines using heavy padlocks.

by **Chucklz** » 2 Apr 2004 11:18

Ive also seen inverted 6 pin tubulars on some Pepsi machines, Medeco on some snack machines, and even a Master No 6 on a coke machine. I guess things are pretty variable from region to region.

by **jason** » 2 Apr 2004 12:32

7 pin seems to be quite common. Although a new machine was put into our office today seven pin tubular to protect the sandwiches, wafer to protect the money - didn't realise prawns were so valuable!

by **cormu** » 2 Apr 2004 14:32

alot of food or soda vending machines here in finland have 8 pin Ace II and all other machines have abloys backed up with a huge Iron strap and a big abloy padlock. some even have 2 iron straps
!!

by **technik** » 3 Apr 2004 9:38

a little while ago i saw a regular looking 7 pin tubular lock, but it had a ball bearing on the face of the lock (see pic below) I tried to push it in wit my fingernail, but it wouldn't go in. What do you reckon it is on their for? I'd say its a security feature, what does the key do to unlock it? anyone have any experience/knowelege of this feature?

(I dunno why the pic isn't working. Just follow link)

by **Chucklz** » 3 Apr 2004 10:31

The bearing is meant as an antidrill feature. Does'nt affect picking at all.

by **technik** » 4 Apr 2004 8:59

thanks chucklz. How would this prevent drilling though? from what I have gathered about tubular lock drilling, dont you just get a (special) circular drill bit, insert into circle key way, and drill pins down to sheerline, then the guts of the lock (top pins and springs) spill out and you open the lock. Am I right?

by **Chucklz** » 4 Apr 2004 13:27

I beleive this is to prevent drilling with just any old big drill bit, but who knows.

by **Mad Mick** » 4 Apr 2004 19:28

The purpose of the ball bearing is to inhibit the use of a 'normal' (HSS, titanium nitride coated, cobalt) drill bit to be used to drill out the pins. There is practically no way to effectively centre a drill bit on a ball bearing, unless it has been prepared previously, i.e. grinding flat and then centering with a punch (The metal will still be sufficiently hard to blunten (sp?) most bits). There are drill bits available to drill out the pins etc., but they are not in general abundance.

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 8 Apr 2004 21:43

hilti grinder makes short work of tub locks

just grind the face until the pins leap out

by **Mad Mick** » 9 Apr 2004 18:22

So would a spot-drill bit with the centering bit removed........

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