My first KABA :)

by mh » 27 May 2006 16:17

I was a bit disappointed to find that it had only 8 of the possible 16 pins, but still...

mh

by **Wolfman** » 27 May 2006 22:13

Well done!

Hard?

by **eric343** » 28 May 2006 1:49

Awesome!

I should try picking my Gemini sometime...

by mh » 28 May 2006 2:49

And just for the fun of it, try to remove the core - and watch all these tiny little springs fly around

It took me about 30 min to open it three times, but when I turned the core just a little bit too much, one set of 'top' pins & springs entered the keyway - and then I had to dismantle everything, and it took me more than 1 hour to get the springs back in...

Eric, in your Gemini, do you have '0 cuts' (or dimples, that is)?
Are there pins in those locations?
And does a plug spinner work for you on that lock?

mh

by **Squelchtone** » 11 Oct 2006 10:04

mh wrote:And just for the fun of it, try to remove the core - and watch all these tiny little springs fly around

It took me about 30 min to open it three times, but when I turned the core just a little bit too much, one set of 'top' pins & springs entered the keyway - and then I had to dismantle everything, and it took me more than 1 hour to get the springs back in...

Eric, in your Gemini, do you have '0 cuts' (or dimples, that is)?
Are there pins in those locations?
And does a plug spinner work for you on that lock?

mh

Hi mh,

I managed to break the 90 degree turn rule at the TOOOL meeting.. Eric warned me and on the second opening, I turned too far, pop!, a pin and spring fell into the keyway. 2 springs actually.

ps. before I broke it, I opened it 2 times in what seemed like about 2 to 3 minutes ;-)

single ball pick.

Eric, did you have pics of yours on here? I cant seem to find them.

Thanks
Squelchtone

TOOOL Boston

by **zeke79** » 11 Oct 2006 10:39

Stuff the keyway with thread after picking and turning a few degrees. Then you can rotate fully and not dump the pins into the keyway :wink:

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by **Bud Wiser** » 11 Oct 2006 11:25

Are these types of Kaba locks just not common here in the States? I can only find keyless kaba/ilco locks, even on ebay.

Also, how do these compare to mul-t-locks as far as difficulty goes?

thx

by **Squelchtone** » 11 Oct 2006 11:57

Bud Wiser wrote:Are these types of Kaba locks just not common here in the States? I can only find keyless kaba/ilco locks, even on ebay.

Also, how do these compare to mul-t-locks as far as difficulty goes?

thx

I just talked with my local locksmith/lockie and he said LORI was no longer in business and Ilco or Kaba bought each other so now it's Ilco Kaba. or is it Kaba Ilco?

either way, no, I dont find too many dimple locks around here, just Schlage, Kwikset, Medeco and ASSA. I did see a ton of Mul-t-locks in New York City.

by **Bud Wiser** » 11 Oct 2006 12:24

I think the correct name now is Kaba/Ilco, but all I could find trying to search for a supplier was their keyless locks. I was wondering where I could buy one to play with.

by mh » 12 Oct 2006 2:49

Bud Wiser wrote:I think the correct name now is Kaba/Ilco, but all I could find trying to search for a supplier was their keyless locks. I was wondering where I could buy one to play with.

http://www.ebay.ch/ (as KABA comes from Switzerland) - but they are VERY seldom on ebay. I know that because I've been trying myself for quite a while. I guess the Swiss people simply don't deal with locks on the internet.

Cheers,
mh

by **Bud Wiser** » 12 Oct 2006 10:43

there are a lot of kaba keyless locks on ebay, and kaba jeans too

by **greyman** » 15 Oct 2006 5:39

mh, well picked. However I wonder why only 1/2 of the pins were installed? Was this lock from a master keyed system? Without joking, I think you would find it a lot harder to pick with all 16 pins in it. You might have to use a slimmer tool also. Did it have spool drivers?

My first KABA :)

My first KABA :)

well done

Gemini

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