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UK standard PVC door lock

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UK standard PVC door lock

Postby porker » 22 Mar 2007 8:06

Hi, new member here, from the UK, interested in lockpicking as a hobby/useful skill.

I'll skip any more intro and get straight to my question - hope i've put it in the right place, apologies if not.

I had a go at my front door lock, a pin-tumbler(?) type deadbolt thing. FUHR branded. It's the usual type of lock seen on many PVC doors.

Anyhoo, i raked it with a snake rake, just to see if i could, and it went incredibly easily...through 180 degrees. At 180 degrees it is stuck...

Is it the case that there are 2 points where the pins "lock", top dead centre and bottom dead centre. I've never heard of this, but then again i'm a newbie so is very possible it's just something i've not come across in my reading.

Thanks in advance for any replies, apologies if i've posted in the wrong place, and even more apologies for my lack of lock related terminology.
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Postby Shrub » 22 Mar 2007 8:13

Ok you really really need to search before posting if you plan on sticking around as this is one of the most common problems a learner meets,

But firstly i have to say that your a fool for playing with your door locks, STOIP IT and go and buy a proper pracice lock, you will regret it if a lockie has to come and charge you to sort your mess out,

What you have done is rotated the plug so that the top pins have been sprung into the bottom of the keyway which is now where the pins are,

Simply push the back of your pick down on the pins in the bottom of the keyway and contine to turn the plug, you push them all together as far as you can (these are the top pins that are in the bottom of the keyway)

But as i say please please stop playing with locks in use or not yours, its one of the main fundemental rules of hobby/sport picking,
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Postby porker » 22 Mar 2007 8:19

Sorry about that, i've just noticed in the intro thread the warning about using an "in-use" lock to play with :oops:

Thanks for the reply and no for tearing me a new one - i know some forums are far less forgiving for such bad mistakes.

As for searching, i would have tried it but my not knowing the lingo makes it hard for me to know which search terms to use.

Anyway, advice heeded, i'll go dissasemble my newly purchased lock for practice.

:D Thanks

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Postby Shrub » 22 Mar 2007 8:25

Good luck mate,
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Postby paul1982 » 22 Mar 2007 17:21

porker wrote:
As for searching, i would have tried it but my not knowing the lingo makes it hard for me to know which search terms to use.



That is one of the problems i think newbies suffer is not knowing the correct terminology but as you read through your quickly pick it up.
The temptation is always there to pick locks you rely on, but its best to avoid it. Not so bad if something went wrong and you have the means, knowledge and understanding to put it right. When your learning you just dont have that.
When i was first learning i done the same thing when picking a euro it got stuck at 180 degrees. I thought i had broke it so i was glad i hadnt done it at time to a lock i relied on. For about half hour i played around with it and finally i pressed on the the bottom pins as i could see them just about and it turned the extra 180. So now i use flat edge of a half diamond pick, similar to how Shrub suggests.
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Postby Shrub » 22 Mar 2007 20:00

If you want a crash course on terms and names for things check out the dictionary thread which is stickied in the info section,
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