Medeco Lock&key

[Exodus5000]

I have been reading a lot on medeco locks, the quality machining, security pins, and employment of a side bard makes it a very worthy adversary. My question is: Since a medeco lock must have its pins not only set at the shearline, but also aligned with the sidebard for the plug to turn freely, how would a medeco key be able to perform the latter of the two tasks?

[Exodus5000]

Yes i realize i spelled "bar" bard. And yes i realize i made that mistake twice. *sigh*

[LittlePeaceful]

The key have angled cuts, the bottom pins have a V shaped tip so the pins are lifted and rotated. The proper rotation of the pins align some holes (valleys) in the side of the pins with some protrusions of the of the sidebar allowing the sidebar itself to retract.

For a short description with some pictures have a look at:
http://dp.penix.org/locks/cl3.html

For some diagrams you can have a look at the following thread:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?p=3962

the links posted by marso in the last post are still working and the diagrams are well done.

Hope this can help.

[Exodus5000]

What an ingenious security idea. It seems that lockpicking technology as far as tools are concerned has not yet caught up with the side bar security measure. At least as far as I know. The next step would be to create a tool that is angled correctly as well - maybe a rake like device or similar - that when inserted would turn the pins to match the side bar. Then picking could commence after this is done.

You guys think this idea is plausible?

[CaptHook]

Not really, the pins require different rotations lock to lock, no tool could turn all the pins gate-side correct in every lock. Sidebars arent tough IF you can put pressure on the sidebar. Locks like medeco etc, have hardened inserts in all the right places for protection to this attack.
Chuck

[zeke79]

I am not at the medeco level by far but wow. being in the enginerring industry I say WOW to the medeco engineers whether it was intentional or not their pick difficulty or not. Medeco is the name these days for all, if you can reliably pick a few medecos randomly selected you are definatly an icon in the picking business!!!

[HeadHunterCEO]

the irony is mose people install their medecos on foam core doors or un reinforced jack studs.

ev er seen a door split down the middle?