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I want serrated and mushroom pins!!!

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I want serrated and mushroom pins!!!

Postby n00bking » 3 Jun 2007 5:37

OK, Got some spools for my Kwikset deadbolt. They are great. I wouldn't mine getting some serrated and mushroom driver pins though, but for the life of me I can't buy any on the web I just can't find them? Is something wrong with me or are they seriously this hard to come by? Do you know where I could get some?
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Postby Shrub » 8 Jun 2007 10:10

Make sure the pins you put in your locks are the same size as the original ones or it could either make the lock easier to pick or harder to pick if the wrong sizes are inserted.

Serrated pins may be easier to get if you went to a locksmith who is a dealer for a make which uses them.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 8 Jun 2007 14:50

Right here buddy, http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=523 . It has all the different driver pin sizes you'll probably ever need, especially for locks like Kwikset and Schlage. I have a this kit and am very pleased with them. Load them up into a high tolerance lock like a Everest and you're in for a treat. :wink:
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Postby Eyes_Only » 8 Jun 2007 14:52

Oops, forgot to mention this kit doesnt have mushroom pins, just spooled and serrated but a spool and mushroom reacts the same in a lock anyways. I just got mines for the serrated pins and it was worth it.
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Postby Raccoon » 9 Jun 2007 19:13

Sadly, according to LAB, they do not and never did mfg a "mushroom" pin. Though, they use the word mushroom and spool interchangeably.

Wish I could find someone who fabricate[s|ed] .115" dia mushrooms, but I've hit a dead end.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 9 Jun 2007 19:31

I think you could do it yourself with a C-clamp, a small square file and a steady hand.
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Make your own

Postby Raymond » 9 Jun 2007 23:37

Make your own funny pins by putting a regular pin in a drill and using a small file on it. Smooth corners with very fine sand paper before using. You can use your wildest imagination and theory to make your lock unpickable.
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Postby freakparade3 » 10 Jun 2007 0:02

Someone posted awile back about making their own spool pins, I believe it was Gordon Airporte. I may be wrong on the poster.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 10 Jun 2007 1:42

I can just picture the pin come free of the drill chuck as its being filed down and shooting right into the operators eye. :shock:
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corbins

Postby raimundo » 10 Jun 2007 8:58

I get spools and mushrooms by taking apart old corbin lock, if you want to make your own, go the estate sale of an old watchmaker and get his jewelers lathe.
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Spools

Postby Raymond » 12 Jun 2007 0:10

I have made spools and others for many years by using a cordless drill and holding a triangular file against a brass pin. It will not bounce out or be dangerous unless you put too much pressure in the file. Relax and let the tool do the work. Be a craftsman and not a bludgerer.

One paranoid customer wanted drill resistant locks but without buying new and better locks. I made him some top and bottom pins from #32 (.116) high speed drill bits. I hald them in my cordless drill and turned them against a fine grit belt sander. They worked great.
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Postby Raccoon » 12 Jun 2007 4:53

Interesting idea on the drill bits... but I'm not sure where the belt sander comes into play, or how you're cutting them to exacting spec length.
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pins

Postby Raymond » 12 Jun 2007 23:52

The belt sander I use is attached to my workbench. With a fine grit belt I get very smooth surfaces. The drill allows me to get a uniform roundness from whatever I cut. If I turn the drill the same direction as the belt it cuts very little and very slowly. If I turn the drill opposite the belt it cuts much faster. Measure the pins with a micrometer to get your required lengths. I usually smooth the finished product with carbide lapping tape.
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