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 by TOWCH » 8 Aug 2007 21:18
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They don't look vulnerable to anything obvious, but if we can get more information on the mechanism maybe someone will have some ideas. Hopefully it's bulletproof. HP owns Videx and at those price tags it's got a lot riding on it.
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by poppasmurfenfold » 8 Aug 2007 21:32
I'm guessing these work on the same principal as coded keys for cars??? I know absolutely nothing about electronic locks other than ones on cars, but when you think about how technology advances these will sooner than we realize take the places of the locks we use today, which will make my job alot harder.
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by mh » 9 Aug 2007 0:02
poppasmurfenfold wrote:I'm guessing these work on the same principal as coded keys for cars??? I know absolutely nothing about electronic locks other than ones on cars, but when you think about how technology advances these will sooner than we realize take the places of the locks we use today, which will make my job alot harder.
In cars, the lock's electronics are powered from inside (the car's battery), whereas in the Videx Cyber Lock, the key supplies the energy,
but apart from that, they are quite similar. "The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by tmaxx258 » 9 Aug 2007 0:17
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by poppasmurfenfold » 9 Aug 2007 0:45
So then if a pick could transfer the proper amount of energy then these locks should be able to be picked?
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by mh » 9 Aug 2007 0:55
poppasmurfenfold wrote:So then if a pick could transfer the proper amount of energy then these locks should be able to be picked?
Electrical energy?
Most probably not. Once the lock has received enough electrical energy, it will then check cryptographical secrets before releasing a solenoid. "The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by Jaakko » 9 Aug 2007 6:44
mh wrote:poppasmurfenfold wrote:So then if a pick could transfer the proper amount of energy then these locks should be able to be picked?
Electrical energy? Most probably not. Once the lock has received enough electrical energy,
...it vaporizes  You know, car battery, some heavy cabling and a lock acting like a fuse 
But really, if the lock is designed properly, you can't attack it from the electronic side, as they are "impossible". But the mechanical side may have some defect, like the Bluechip (Winkhaus or what it was).
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