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New House, New Locks!

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New House, New Locks!

Postby bumpit » 4 Jan 2008 4:02

Just measured my doors. 1" 3/4 thick, 2" 3/4 backset, drive bolt type deadbolts. I am only changing the front and garage doors. I then plan on taking the tailpeices out of the rest of the doors.(Inside locking deadbolts)I have obtained money for 2 high security locks from my parents. What type of locks would you suggest for the specs I just gave you guys for hardware? I will be happy with any of these high security locks to be honest.
1.Abloy
2.Medeco
3.Assa V twin
4.Schlage Primus
5.Bi-Lock
6.Mul-T Lock

Any other suggestions that may be a better bang for my buck.I can't think of any.Thanks.


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Postby greyman » 4 Jan 2008 7:13

Get yourself a good quality lever lock, eg Chubb 3g114 5-lever. They go on ebay for 10 pounds. They're a bit harder to install, but once installed, you won't look back and keys are easier/cheaper to get copied than the high security cylinder locks. Remember - it's only a house, not a bank vault :wink:
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Postby Eyes_Only » 4 Jan 2008 7:13

I would get Abloy. My second and third choice would be Schlage Primus and then BiLock.

I wouldn't get a Mul-T-Lock unless you decide to wait till the new MT5 comes out. For a lock thats supposed to be high security, MTL isn't that hard to pick.

But ultimately get whatever lock you can get keys for more conveniently. Not too many things suck as much as having high security locks on your home thats really difficult to get extra keys for.
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Postby niksoft » 4 Jan 2008 10:24

You can get a high security lever lock, best i have read about is a Kerberos lock, though they are hard to find outside of eastern europe, namely Russia, the lock will unlock with a key after being in an 800 degree oven for 5 minutes (virtually no cylinder will do that), comes with drill protection, an option for an additional drill protection plate made out of a very hard material that is used as one of the layers in some military armor (that would make it pointless to even trying to drill), their high-security line has 200,000,000 key combinations, and they generally come with 3-5 high precision keys, oh also an anti picking plate for when you are inside your house, and picking their high security line is quite really hard from everything i have read on locks.ru and kriminalist.com (and i dont think there is another country that has as many house robberies as Russia, btw... and you could probably trust a criminal break in specialist who highly recommends the kerberos locks from the second website there)

Just throwing this in the ideas pit... Their high security lock is quite expensive. Its close to $300 for the high sec setup if i recall correctly...

BTW the locks are what they call class 4 certified, which means that it takes more then 30 minutes to break it, using any method, picking, making a key, using a dummy key and lots of force (plain don't work btw), drilling, and even sawing through (all common methods for breaking lever locks).
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Postby freakparade3 » 4 Jan 2008 11:07

I[m with Greyman. When I buy a new house it will be fitted with high security lever locks.
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Postby bumpit » 4 Jan 2008 15:13

Sorry guys I forgot to say the house has already been outfitted with Weiser deadbolts with all the measurements I gave you on my first post. A high security deadbolt would be a lot easier.
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Postby Jaakko » 4 Jan 2008 20:33

Abloy most definately. Keys are pretty easy to get when needed and the cost of a key for a Protec is 10 USD. Look from here: http://www.bayarealocks.com
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Postby int3grate » 5 Jan 2008 1:01

I know this site focuses on locks, and that's a good thing, but make sure you focus on other means of entry too. If there's a Medeco lock on the door, a criminal is just going to break a window or break your door in. If your gonna put high security locks on the door, I'd put security film on the Windows, and make sure I was using solid doors, attached to solid, well anchored door frames.

If you have sliding doors, I'd use a security bar to keep it closed.

You might also want to invest in an alarm system, and possibly some outdoor security lights.

Just make sure you take a "layered approach" when dealing with physical security. Take everything into consideration.

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Postby dougfarre » 5 Jan 2008 21:33

I agree with Integrate. But any Medeco should be sufficient. The cheapest deadbolts you can find on ebay. Medeco Originals are your best bet.
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Postby linty » 5 Jan 2008 21:52

He's in canada so I wouldn't be so sure that getting keys cut would be cheaper or easier than with a high security lock.

Around here you'd probably pay between 25 and 75 dollars to get a key cut for a lever lock.
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