Door hardware that resists changeout by renters?

[WOT]

Is there anything other than the large and small IC cores that resists lock change by people issued change keys?

Let's say for people who own homes for investment purposes lending their investment home in a college town and want to prevent addition of people not on the lease. (i.e. 3 bdrm house lend to3 tenants, but you don't want them adding a third person to attic room)

Even if the key can't be copied, with the common locksets, you can't prevent them from changing the door hardware since they can be removed with screwdrivers.

Is there such an option for both KIK and deadbolt? They both need to resist removal, so that they can't just avoid using the dead bolt with issued keys and changing the knob to off the shelf KIK set.

Basically it should be setup so that only those issued the key can lock/unlock doors and they be given no option but to leave the door unlocked if they were to add an unauthorized tenant and should resist duplication and lock change outs by common tools or the tenant key.

[WOT]

Common SFIC comes close, but it is NG, because the keys are not patent restricted and the MX8 system is not available unless you're a corporate or institutional user with a lot of locks.

[freakparade3]

There are a few locks that have "hidden" screws that unless you know what you are looking for you will not be able to remove them. You could also install the locks with one way security screws, or use a drive in bolt. I hate running across a drive in bolt. That are a P.I.T.A. to remove without scratching up the door.

[WOT]

Is Everest Primus LFIC cylinder and related hardware available for non master key system?

[Buggs41]

Install the lock with security screws instead of the supplied ones. I believe they are a #10 in either 24, or 32 tpi thread.

http://www.tamperproof.com/index.cfm?fu ... n=products

[WOT]

Install the lock with security screws instead of the supplied ones. I believe they are a #10 in either 24, or 32 tpi thread.

http://www.tamperproof.com/index.cfm?fu ... n=products

The bits for these are readily available at Harbor Freight and eBay.

[Buggs41]

All I can think of then is to destroy the tool area on the head of the screw. If it's a phillips head, drill the slots off. Similar to a drill bit slipping too much. But you will have a hard time removing it when you want to.

Hope you find what you need!

[bumber]

All I can think of then is to destroy the tool area on the head of the screw. If it's a phillips head, drill the slots off. Similar to a drill bit slipping too much. But you will have a hard time removing it when you want to.

Hope you find what you need!

use of an easy out, basicly a drill bit that cuts when turned left instead of right like a normal one would catch a stripped or drilled out screw pretty easy...and if you dont use the security screws because the tools are available then your out of luck because you can find easy-outs at nearly any hardware store/auto parts place although Im sure those one-way slotted screws would do what your looking for...

[maintenanceguy]

Some day you're going to have to change the lock. If you will be able to figure out a way, a house full of college guys who have all year to figure out a way will.

[bumber]

Some day you're going to have to change the lock. If you will be able to figure out a way, a house full of college guys who have all year to figure out a way will.

yea but thats the point of tamper proof screws, if they were taken out and replaced with other screws you would know...and I would press charges if i could but yea if they can get them out Im sure they can find somewhere to buy more to replace them

[WOT]

All I can think of then is to destroy the tool area on the head of the screw. If it's a phillips head, drill the slots off. Similar to a drill bit slipping too much. But you will have a hard time removing it when you want to.

Hope you find what you need!

use of an easy out, basicly a drill bit that cuts when turned left instead of right like a normal one would catch a stripped or drilled out screw pretty easy...and if you dont use the security screws because the tools are available then your out of luck because you can find easy-outs at nearly any hardware store/auto parts place although Im sure those one-way slotted screws would do what your looking for...

I'm not the one who needs this, but my friend's parents own an investment house in a college town that they rent out, but they don't live close. So, keeping an eye on tenant activity is difficult and even if you find out a guy who's not on the lease is living, you still have to go through an eviction process and such, so it's easier to just make it difficult in the first place.

If one of the tenants calls and claims he lost his key, you'd have to get him a new key as a landlord for the time being. Since you won't be there, it could very well be that he just wants a new key to add someone but you won't be able to personally check that... so

I guess it leaves the patented keyway IC core as the only option...

1. one of the tenants loses his key

2. you overnight him a spare key for the time being

3. you arrange for a local designee to visit the property, change the cores out, then hand the tenants the new keys in the same quantity as the number of documented tenants.

4. claim the rekeying cost from the their deposit (obviously, clearly noted in the lease agreement)

You aren't dealing with elderly tenants, so you can't underestimate creatively and resourcefulness...

[Safety0ff]

Does such a thing exist as an IC with a hidden screw behind the cyclinder which you need to remove the core to gain access to? The purpose of the screw being an extra precaution to prevent the lock from being removed/changed by unauthorised persons.

[globallockytoo]

In Australia, The Lockwood 777 deadbolt can only be removed either by picking or use of the key. The plug needs to turn to allow the allen keyholes to be exposed?

Is this what you mean?

You could consider a Bilock cylinder or Abloy cylinder, as then the entire hardware needs to be removed and replaced (generally)

The Lockwood 007 deadbolt requires the inside cylinder to be turned to allow the removal of the lock too.

[WOT]

Does such a thing exist as an IC with a hidden screw behind the cyclinder which you need to remove the core to gain access to? The purpose of the screw being an extra precaution to prevent the lock from being removed/changed by unauthorised persons.

Yes. Rim cylinders have a set screw inside the housing, deadbolts at least one retention screw behind the core and KIK and lever sets can have a check pin that will prevent the knob removal button from being pushed in unless the core is removed.

If you don't have a control key, good luck.