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A better way?

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A better way?

Postby Eyes_Only » 1 Aug 2008 7:31

Is there a better way other than using this tool, http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=142 to remove the core from a Kwikset KIK knob?

I think I've seen a tool made by Rytan to make removal easier but can't seem to find it anywhere and the closest thing to it I can find is this thing, http://www.clksupplies.com/shop/product ... ts_id=1402

Usually on a really stubborn Kwikset lock I end up using a long screw driver to pound the lock core out but I'm starting to get tired of doing this and I'm affraid I'll one day break one of the clips that holds the core in the knob.

Any suggestions people?
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Postby Legion303 » 1 Aug 2008 8:55

Check youtube.

I had the same problem a while back. It turns out some KW KIK locks have a little tab that sits in the handle housing and holds it in place instead of clips. In that case, remove the tailpiece, pick the lock (or use key), and slide the cylinder right out.

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PS: local lockie told me that the KIK couldn't be shimmed and that you needed the special tool to get the cylinders out. I started arguing the point since it's pretty obviously easy to shim, I've seen it done, and even if you needed the tool you could make one in about 2 minutes with a piece of steel, but it wasn't worth the effort.
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Postby freakparade3 » 1 Aug 2008 8:56

There is one more tool that used a modified key and grabs the pins inside the lock. You can remove the plug and rekey while the lock is still on the door. I'll try to find a picture.

Edit: Heres a link http://www.rytan.com/cgi-bin/detail.php ... val%20Tool
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Postby Eyes_Only » 1 Aug 2008 9:33

Yeah that's the one! The picture on the very bottom of the ad. Does that thing actually work?
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Postby freakparade3 » 1 Aug 2008 10:06

Eyes_Only wrote:Yeah that's the one! The picture on the very bottom of the ad. Does that thing actually work?


It works great on the older knobs. The newer ones supposedly have an improvement so it won't work, I have not tried it on any new ones though. It's well worth the money for the tool just for the time you save.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 2 Aug 2008 0:31

I bet. Sometimes that little flimsy $1 tool just doesn't cut it and I resort to using a long flat head screw driver and just pound that sucker out. I hate doing that.
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