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What Constitutes a High Security Lock?

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Postby PickFree » 2 Aug 2008 15:49

Gordon Airporte wrote:It's more a matter of what the locks are used to secure. Embassies, ATM's, Arms lockers, coin boxes, safes, etc. will tend to use a certain class of lock, and we don't discuss the details of opening those in the open.


So i can't talk about the locks my friend gave me, two of them are generic (i can't spot a name) and ones a medeco. They're used on arcade machines from what he told me. The generic ones are from old machines i think and the medeco is a new one. That's ok i understand why they would prevent open access to such information, so i guess i'll just keep messing with them on my own :)

I'm just glad to find out that if i share something i really shouldn't have that i'll just have the thread locked and not be banned or anything like that, which is what i was concerned about.
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Postby whitenight » 13 Aug 2008 14:33

freakparade3 wrote:Medeco locks are open forum material now boys, discuss away. :wink:


Really? Is this because of the defeats publicized by Toool? My main area of interest right now is impressioning but Medeco is the next subject I intend to tackle.
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Postby ToolyMcgee » 13 Aug 2008 18:20

Medeco is open forum, but I still can't talk about a crummy 6 pin ford lock without getting flack!

All medeco locks, even the future medeco locks are open forum? They still constitue most of the high security locks on banks and businesses. They are still very difficult to manipulate, but this is an odd move for the administration to make.
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Postby Jaakko » 13 Aug 2008 23:21

ToolyMcgee wrote:Medeco is open forum, but I still can't talk about a crummy 6 pin ford lock without getting flack!

All medeco locks, even the future medeco locks are open forum? They still constitue most of the high security locks on banks and businesses. They are still very difficult to manipulate, but this is an odd move for the administration to make.

Banks and businesses usually have alarms/cameras/guards, but cars usually don't.
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Postby n2oah » 13 Aug 2008 23:55

I guess "high security" has been officially redefined as any lock with more than 5 pins, which I guess is "the standard". :wink:
"Lockpicking is what robbing is all about!" says Jim King.
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Postby ToolyMcgee » 14 Aug 2008 3:29

Maybe in Finland you have the pleasure of all the cars not having alarms. It's harder to come by one anymore that doesn't have the screeching alarm and the ignition shutdown. Not that I disagree with the extra security, but the alarms. I don't know how he does it, but my brothers neighbor has his go off every morning at 4:15 to wake him up for work. Maybe the same dog takes a leak on it every morning at exactly the same time, I don't know.

I wasn't disagreeing with the decision to make it public forum banter, just confused. You still can't tell some shmuck how to get a cash box open, or unlock his safe unless he produces a picture of his grinning mug next to it giving the thumbs up. Now we can talk about Medecoder's to bust into the liquor store down the street? It just seems odd. Like I said I am sure it will not become an issue because of the difficulty involved.

No one better ruin the Medecoder for me either! I'll give away the ending to every movie in the theater randomly in threads. I've been making twisted wedge diamond picks for weeks, now I've got a Medeco on the way so I can play with making rakes and you just give it to the public forum! :evil:

Oh well, there's still lots of fun advanced locks that remain "classified". Hopefully only a couple more weeks of controlling myself on the vehicle picks...

-ToolyMcgee
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Postby AlexMHH » 17 Sep 2008 2:33

I'm pretty sure that the issue with car locks stems not from the number of pins, but rather other features (Sidebar[s] finger pins, and the like) unique to locks used where the likelihood of attack his higher, or the consequences of compromise are greater than normal. While I'm eager to eventually gain access to the advanced forums, I can definitely agree with the choice to limit the access to the information.
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Postby ToolyMcgee » 17 Sep 2008 2:51

Yes, I like the limit of the open forum myself. All of the auto locks I want to talk about don't use pins. I just was venting the week Medeco was made open forum after many months of dreaming to own one. The picks I made for this Medeco, by the way, ended up being too extremly angled to get a controlled set. I had thought pins could rotate 360 degrees. I was mistaken, and now that I have bested one with standard tools I can breath fire! Modestly of course, just to light candles and cigarettes. :mrgreen:

-Tooly
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