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 by datagram » 27 Apr 2009 10:43
Solomon wrote:globallockytoo wrote:The only two proven bump proof products on the market (apart from lever locks) are Bilock and Abloy.
According to TOOOL, there are many lock manufacturers which make bump-proof cylinders. Certain models made by GEGE, Anker, Kaba, M&C, Ikon, Medeco, and EVVA for example. Just repeating what I heard. 
You are both right...anything that is not pin-based is, by definition, bump-proof. Many pin-based locks are also OK, but that is a small percentage of the total. Medeco IS bumpable, btw. dg
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by Solomon » 27 Apr 2009 16:26
datagram wrote:Medeco IS bumpable, btw.
dg
What about the Biaxial? 
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by mhole » 27 Apr 2009 18:17
I was refering to the lock, not the cylinder. Yale cylinders are pretty simple to pick, but I don't see anyone with criminal intent doing that. I was refering more to the fact that the lock case can be bypassed *very* easily. I can't go into more detail because bypass is not for discussion in the open forum, but suffice to say I open probably 4-6 of those on a typical week, and they're usually open in less time than it would take to unpack your picks...
Unless the snib drops, which I have to deal with a couple of times a week. When that happens you usually have to destroy the lock and cylinder to open the lock.
In short, that lock sucks, and if it's the only lock securing your front door you won't be insured in the event you get burgled. Get a 5-lever deadlock fitted, or get a BS rated nightlatch like the Era High security or the Yale PBS.
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by unlisted » 27 Apr 2009 18:53
Solomon wrote:datagram wrote:Medeco IS bumpable, btw.
dg
What about the Biaxial?
Is it medeco? 
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by Solomon » 28 Apr 2009 0:23
unlisted wrote:Is it medeco?
As far as I can tell. Here's a linky.
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by mh » 28 Apr 2009 0:57
unlisted wrote:Solomon wrote:datagram wrote:Medeco IS bumpable, btw.
dg
What about the Biaxial?
Is it medeco?
I'm not sure if that's the right question. Think of Medeco cam locks. Cheers, mh "The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by unlisted » 28 Apr 2009 1:03
it was a joke hence the
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by mh » 28 Apr 2009 1:11
unlisted wrote:it was a joke hence the
well I didn't get that joke, but Medeco cam locks are not bumpable, not even after a huge number of tries with several different specially cut keys like other Medeco locks might be. "The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by unlisted » 28 Apr 2009 1:19
mh wrote:unlisted wrote:it was a joke hence the
well I didn't get that joke, but Medeco cam locks are not bumpable, not even after a huge number of tries with several different specially cut keys like other Medeco locks might be.
hmmm sounds like I need some cam locks than 
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