"Ideal" and Yale deadbolt info?

[Peter Martin]

I came across an "Ideal" brand deadbolt yesterda. It is already mounted on a advertising or mini demonstration door--which would make a great mount for practicing.
I've never heard of this brand before--but presume it's make by another company and marketed under this tradename.

At the same surplus store I came across an old (25-30 years?) Yale deadbolt. Does Yale still make these? The keyway looked unfamiliar and looking into the keyway, the pins look fat--wider than standard Kwikset/Schlage pins. But maybe this was an optical illusion because I was excited seeing so many surplus locks in one place...

If anyone has info on these two locks, let me know... I just haven't seen either of these two cylinder locks being sold in stores anywhere.

[Peter Martin]

I did find that Yale, of course, is still making cylindrical and mortise locksets. However, it appears that they dropped their line of deadbolts. Since this brand is not popular in this area, I may have to buy it, clean it up and give it a try!

By the way, here is the site for Yale products. It appears they only produce a limited line of cylindrical and mortise locks and now mainly concentrate on electronic access control.

http://www.yalecommercial.com/

[Chucklz]

Yale did (does?) produce a wide variety of locks including interchangeable cores, in a number of sectional keyways. I would look at www.jetkeys.com to see if any of the keyways are familiar. I have a few Yale locks that have seen extensive use, and the pins appear to be worn by this use to something that looks squarish when viewed from the front.

[Peter Martin]

After some research on what type of lock I was trying to pick... I found this information on Ideal Security Inc.--which is a Canadian company. They formerly manufactured locks called "Super Guard". They have not made this lock in over 20 years. The company makes only general security items--door viewers, patio locks, etc. They have no technical or service information pertaining to the Super Guard locks anymore. The only information about these is this short website.

http://www.idealinc.com/super_guard_locks.htm

[Peter Martin]

I searched a few other on-line sites for additonal information--since these locks are still encountered. Apparently they are very inexpensive/cheap locks made of pot-metal. Supposedly they are also ideantical to Craftsman locks. But I haven't seen a "Craftsman" brand lockset either.

[toomush2drink]

Also dont forget the uk yale locks
http://www.yalelock.com

[EdT586]

I am aware that this thread is several years old and is worth a try, but any of you still see these locks around in you area or know of one of those mom and pop hardware stores that still has one around ?

I am interested in acquiring some for parts to service my 25+ year old SuperGuard that is slowly wearing out. These locks were nicely designed, but Ideal Security's use of zinc Zamac 3 for internal components means they wear out and break easily. Ideal Security is located in my home city, but they no longer provide parts or service for this line of locks.

If anyone sees or find any around, please message and I will gladly compensate you.

[lockman101!]

About that yale lock my grandfather owns a flemarket and out side in this little town in the alyway connected to the building is a 3 foot tall 1foot wide SAFE its old and its got a old YALE (deadbolt) lock on it. Like your talking about this thing is cemented to the ground its not in use it just belongs to my grandpaw if tried picking it for him but no progress im a intermediate level lock smith ive been studing for 3 years on locksmithing and picking i have a set of HPC lock picks and some homemade ones back to the YALE LOCK its seems to have huge pins on top very long and more than visable they are rounded pins without points i think theres 7 or 8 pins. if you have any info on this lock plz message me.

-lockman101!