American 5200 3 Locks, 3 pin set ups????

[WolfSpring]

So I have 3 different 5200 locks I found, they were cut, I picked them and I have rebuilt two of them. The pin set ups for all 3 were different though

Lock 1: 5 Serated Key pins, 3 serated drivers, 2 spool drivers
Lock 2: 5 Normal Key pins, 3 Serated Drivers, 2 Spool Drivers
Lock 3: 5 Normal Key pins, 2 Normal Drivers, 3 Spool Drivers

I have a fourth that I have not taken apart, it's my first 5200 I picked, and I havn't gotten around to messing with it since. But I've reshakled, and used existing keys and pins from other locks to make them work again.

Has anyone else ran into the same lock with different pin set ups? The body's look different too, newer/older and one looks like there was a finish put on it. I'll get some pictures when I get back to the room from work.

[Wizer]

Xarragon posted pictures of tri-circle 264 with mushroom pins, mine had none.

[Varminter]

In my 5200 I got 5 serrated key pins and 4 serrated spool drivers and one serrated.

[FarmerFreak]

My experience with American padlocks is that the driver pins are always random. But only between spooled and serrated, finding one with normal driver pins is a little odd. It was probably keyed by someone with a master padlock pin kit.

The key pins are usually normal (not serrated) for the shallow depths and after a certain depth they are all serrated. Unless of course someone keyed up the locks with their own pin kit.

[WolfSpring]

I am finding these cut and tossed away, but how many people in the US Military are actually in the buisness of rekeying a lock? We are also in Kuwait, so these were probably put on brand new back in the states, and the key holder was either separated from his containers, or he lost the keys in transit by the look of the lack of use of the one lock. They each have diferent codes stamped on them, I'm going to look them up tonight and see when they are manufactured, maybe different years they have different pins used, one of them is pretty old, the newer looking one was the one with the normal key pins, it is VEKc stamped, the VEK looks standard stamped same depth as the SERIES 5200 and US, but the c looks like it was stamped later, but still a factory stamp, it is also newer as it sais AMERICAN LOCK(tm top right of K) and has the flag to the left of the L and under the AME of american. I'll get some pics up in a few hours when I get back.

[Varminter]

Here wizwazzle pick a 5200 and he found two regular drivers in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxtmdrRS ... annel_page

[WolfSpring]

Here's my four, not the best pictures, but you can see the markings. The one on the Left has a silver Shackle from a master 973DPF, but the flash made it look black like the second one. All four of these were found cut, and the first 3 all have different pins, the fourth I havn't taken out the pins.

[FarmerFreak]

I'm pretty sure that american lock co. was acquired by master lock co. about a year ago. So it could be possible that some of the newer stuff is actually coming from the factory with master lock pins.

Which is a possible explanation, and it stinks because all of these will be easier to pick soon. Maybe if the bump stop becomes popular or standard, they will still be a little bit tricky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUJWc7rIj8I

[WolfSpring]

I took apart the other cylindar today, I got 4 serated and one spoorated drivers and 4 serated key pins and one regular, but it was so short it couldn't have had serated.

[thelockpickkid]

As mentioned above, The American Lock Company and Master Lock Company are one in the same. I couldn't help myself out of curiosity so I looked up the codes for the back of your locks. In the same order as pictured,

#1 is July, 04 #2 is August, 04 #3 is July, 04 and #4 is indeed older, April, 94.

I always like to look up the codes for these locks because they are often decieving in how old or how new they really are, some are so used and abused you think they are 10 years old when in fact they are actually only a few years!!

[lock2006]

As mentioned above, The American Lock Company and Master Lock Company are one in the same. I couldn't help myself out of curiosity so I looked up the codes for the back of your locks. In the same order as pictured,

#1 is July, 04 #2 is August, 04 #3 is July, 04 and #4 is indeed older, April, 94.

I always like to look up the codes for these locks because they are often decieving in how old or how new they really are, some are so used and abused you think they are 10 years old when in fact they are actually only a few years!!

Good info thelockpickkid about these american locks,i got a couples of this locks and did not know
how to read this codes or pay attention to this codes.