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Videx Cyberlock

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Videx Cyberlock

Postby JLewis » 17 Jan 2010 6:25

I'm a LEO and the interest that lead me to this site was mostly professional curiosity and personal interest.

However we've got a vendor giving us a spiel about how the Videx products he's trying to sell us are impervious to physical attacks. It's basically the same stuff I'd heard about Medeco products and I've seen how those are bypassable.

I understand that any specific info about Videx stuff would probably be for advanced section only I'm just trying to get a general grasp of how accurate this guy's claims are as far as them being so resistant to tampering/compromise.

Thanks in advance and I'm glad to be here :)
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Re: Videx Cyberlock

Postby sfi72 » 17 Jan 2010 6:51

I'd like to start off by saying I don't know much about these locks, at first glance they look like some kind of tubular lock that has an electronic component.

Now then, after a little googling I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rTbcWtCek

Yeah....
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Re: Videx Cyberlock

Postby Squelchtone » 17 Jan 2010 7:46

sfi72 wrote:I'd like to start off by saying I don't know much about these locks, at first glance they look like some kind of tubular lock that has an electronic component.

Now then, after a little googling I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rTbcWtCek

Yeah....


sfi72,

Nice find! Looks like he's bouncing the solenoid?

Trouble with his demo is that he's turning the cam by hand, I wonder if after removing the metal plate he can insert something into the keyway and still turn the lock.

There is a quasi informitive diagram on their site, which suggests some sort of spring based plunger in the back and up towards the bible, I wonder if thats the bit that stops the plug from turning... Take a look Here

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Re: Videx Cyberlock

Postby unlisted » 17 Jan 2010 8:06

UWSDWF used to have these locks at a prior place of his employment, send him a PM. He lurks around here every now and than...

Personally, i thiink they look cool, but I would not go with them. I prefer Abloy, and for good reason. (plus the Fed Govt agencies over here love them as well...)
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Re: Videx Cyberlock

Postby Solomon » 17 Jan 2010 16:29

squelchtone wrote:sfi72,

Nice find! Looks like he's bouncing the solenoid?

Trouble with his demo is that he's turning the cam by hand, I wonder if after removing the metal plate he can insert something into the keyway and still turn the lock.

I'd imagine a thumbturn tool would do the trick, yes.
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Re: Videx Cyberlock

Postby JLewis » 17 Jan 2010 23:25

Thanks everyone for your input :)

I'd never heard of a thumbturn tool before I googled it. The only thing I'm really familiar with is the kevlar diaphram for car doors and a long tool to trip the inside latches. Door locks are offering all sorts of new discoveries!

In regard to the Videx Cyberlocks, I wasn't sure as there are no pins or mechanical manipulation directly and the ... "handshake" between the key and the lock is the only security measure enabling the core to turn But I had heard reports that no one had found a way around it. Figured you guys would be the best place to get enthusiast insight.

Thanks :)
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Re: Videx Cyberlock

Postby mh » 18 Jan 2010 0:12

squelchtone wrote:Looks like he's bouncing the solenoid?


... while in parallel applying a strong magnetic field? (The square metal thing looks like a rare earth magnet with a plastic plate attached to prevent it from shattering?)

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