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by goliathdrakken » 28 Jan 2010 4:36
I'm very familiar with BEST SFIC locks. However, I just picked up some Falcon cores, and they seem to operate a little differently. The control shear line is only on the back 4 pins. When it comes to pinning these cores for the control key, do the front 3 pins share the same code as any core/master key? Then as for the back 4 pins, do they use the same A2 standard for calculating the control key code?
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by FarmerFreak » 28 Jan 2010 8:29
Key them exactly the same as a real Best and it will be correct. The control sleeve really does use all six pins in the Falcon cores. At least all of them that I have seen and worked on in the last ten years do.
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by ElAbogado » 28 Jan 2010 13:44
goliathdrakken wrote:I'm very familiar with BEST SFIC locks. However, I just picked up some Falcon cores, and they seem to operate a little differently. The control shear line is only on the back 4 pins. When it comes to pinning these cores for the control key, do the front 3 pins share the same code as any core/master key? Then as for the back 4 pins, do they use the same A2 standard for calculating the control key code?
Once again FarmerPhreak has given good advice. Falcon cores are similar to Best, KSP (KFC to some!) and other generic cores with the exception that some are capped with a strip of brass and not plugged individually. IMHO it is far better to have individual caps so that one can change an individual pin chamber if necessary. The superior cores are Arrow new style and new Sargent. I am preparing a short post with photos to explain why these cores cannot be defeated by the fingered tension tools that are currently on the market. SFIC systems are a truly great system for some applications, and not for others. El Abogado
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by thelockpickkid » 28 Jan 2010 19:01
Every Falcon I have came across I can never pick the operating line, I have always been able to pick the control line though, I am not talking one lock, I have done 3 or 4 of these, never the operating, always the control.
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by ElAbogado » 28 Jan 2010 21:04
thelockpickkid wrote:Every Falcon I have came across I can never pick the operating line, I have always been able to pick the control line though, I am not talking one lock, I have done 3 or 4 of these, never the operating, always the control.
If you had to pick one shear line to pick, the control shear line would be the one. You can remove the core and open the lock at the same time. Just think how bad it would be if you could only pick the opening shear line, as you would never be able to remove the core without DE.
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by thelockpickkid » 28 Jan 2010 23:21
ElAbogado wrote:thelockpickkid wrote:Every Falcon I have came across I can never pick the operating line, I have always been able to pick the control line though, I am not talking one lock, I have done 3 or 4 of these, never the operating, always the control.
If you had to pick one shear line to pick, the control shear line would be the one. You can remove the core and open the lock at the same time. Just think how bad it would be if you could only pick the opening shear line, as you would never be able to remove the core without DE.
Exactly. I had to open one at a bank, that was the last one, it was locking the hatch that gains you entry to the roof, I picked it while standing on a ladder, the core fell through my hand and to the floor below. I then had to pick the core in my hand to retract the lug to put it back into the lock, as nobody could find working keys to the lock itself!!
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