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Interesting Schlage Core

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Interesting Schlage Core

Postby Josh K » 26 Feb 2010 14:45

I picked up one of these "key it to your house key" Schlage keyway locks. It almost looks like a SFIC core but it's not. I dumped all the pins out to see what I had been playing with and low and behold out come four spooled drivers. I'll try to get some pictures up when I have the time, but is this normal for these? I assume that the Schlage core is made by Schlage and then shipped to ACE or whomever makes the rest of the locks.
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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby datagram » 1 Mar 2010 11:46

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking, but spooled drivers are common on Schlage locks; nothing new.

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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby Josh K » 1 Mar 2010 11:49

datagram wrote:I'm not entirely sure what you are asking, but spooled drivers are common on Schlage locks; nothing new.

dg


I was simply surprised, it's nice to know at least some manufacturers put security pins in common locks.
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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby Legion303 » 2 Mar 2010 4:30

datagram wrote:I'm not entirely sure what you are asking, but spooled drivers are common on Schlage locks; nothing new.

dg


Maybe. But I have around 6 in my collection (which includes 2 Primus cylinders), and not a single one has spools that I didn't put in myself. I've never run across one that had them in already.

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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby FarmerFreak » 2 Mar 2010 8:21

Legion, To my knowledge the only locks that Schlage puts spooled pins in is their cheap locks that are sold at the big box stores. Which is why a lot of beginners run into them. Specifically the B360 deadbolts come with them. And I'm not sure what to classify the F series driver pins as, but they can be tricky to pick.

As far as anything that actually meets any kind of commercial rating that Schlage makes. You're right, they don't put security pins in them. Including their high security Primus cylinders...they only put finger pins in them. And to quote a mentally crazy customer I had to talk to. "Beware of the finger attack, even Medeco's are susceptible to the finger attack."
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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby yng_pick » 2 Mar 2010 17:25

I assume you mean with the f series knobs, the t-pins (as schlage calls them)

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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby Schuyler » 4 Mar 2010 11:33

I've often wondered how people come across security pins in Schlages, because I had never seen them. I mean, I literally have had 500+ Schlages over the last few years and never saw or encountered while picking, a single one. However, I have never once purchased one from Home Depot or the like. I usually get them 2nd hand from large installed groups that have been replaced.
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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby Josh K » 4 Mar 2010 11:41

Schuyler wrote:I've often wondered how people come across security pins in Schlages, because I had never seen them. I mean, I literally have had 500+ Schlages over the last few years and never saw or encountered while picking, a single one. However, I have never once purchased one from Home Depot or the like. I usually get them 2nd hand from large installed groups that have been replaced.


This was from one of those padlocks that take a SC1 profile key so you can use the same key for your home as for your padlock.
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Re: Interesting Schlage Core

Postby Legion303 » 4 Mar 2010 20:01

FarmerFreak wrote:As far as anything that actually meets any kind of commercial rating that Schlage makes. You're right, they don't put security pins in them.


That explains it, then, because even the cheapest Schlage in my box came out of a commercial lever set (25 cents at ReStore!).

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