And since im not able to pick today because of my arm i was just having a think and sketch of the principles they use and how they work/vulnerabilities.....And i am in shock. I just discovered a non DE bypass for each....
And although i feel elated about this discovery (I love solving puzzles like this) i just cant help but realise how much of society is built on trust, ignorance and bulls**t

Right now i am feeling more thankfull to forums like this where they try to keep information away from google and thus away from people that might shatter my illusion of security and safety.