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mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

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mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Rickthepick » 21 Mar 2010 11:40

ordered some mult-lock chinese knock offs that come with A and B keys.

if at any point you decide to use B keys, A will no longer work :?

il dismantle one when they arrive lol
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby SnowyBoy » 21 Mar 2010 12:22

Sounds interesting by any means. Can't wait :D
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Josh K » 21 Mar 2010 12:29

Is this similar to the Mul-T-Lock change system? Use the green keys, change to yellow keys, change to red keys, with each level being not compatible with previous levels?

I believe it actually snaps a small bit off of the keypins when you use the next key.
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby jpb06080 » 21 Mar 2010 17:55

I'm pretty sure thats the 3 in 1 system as they call it.
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby exspook » 22 Mar 2010 13:31

the inner pins are serrated and the cuts are such that the next generation of key snaps the inner pin

Pentagon system in Multilock UK
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Rickthepick » 23 Mar 2010 5:48

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The quality of these locks are as expected. pretty cheap and nasty however i havent picked one yet. Not that iv spent more than 5 mins though...
cams are not offset with the locks body and lock looks easilly snappable due to the cheap grade of brass used

heres a pic of the keys. the blue is the original. the black is the rekey. I can only see a difference in the last cut
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Im gonna go rekey one now. Im expecting the lock to break at that point lol.... wel see
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Rickthepick » 23 Mar 2010 5:54

no. I was wrong.

It worked VERY well.

sounded as though a couple pins/ballbearings dropped away inside the lock somewhere

still in good working order 8)

definately cheap but definately work
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby datagram » 24 Mar 2010 10:38

Rick,

It's a knock off of the 3-in-1 system for Mul-T-Lock Classic. There's more information on how it works in the paper "Mul-T-Lock: Design and Security" (Section 6) at http://www.lockpickingforensics.com/articles.php.

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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Solomon » 30 Mar 2010 18:34

Hey rick, I've got one of those! How'd you find picking it?
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Rickthepick » 31 Mar 2010 2:53

havent picked it yet but havent really worked on it to be fair feels a bit sloppy
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Re: mult-lock knockoffs with change keys

Postby Solomon » 31 Mar 2010 8:39

Yeah they are a bit... nice and fun to pick though. :mrgreen:
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