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by stevej » 25 Mar 2010 14:35
Hey guys I'm new here and know relatively nothing about locks. I have this door in my house with a "BEST" brand deadbolt lock on it. My question is if it is possible for someone to create a key for this lock, either by taking the lock apart and reassembling it, or by other means. I don't have the original key for this lock, but I don't want to change the lock, or re-key it. I want the original key to be able to work on this lock as well if it is to turn up. Here's a picture of the lock I'm dealing with:  Thanks a lot guys!
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by Josh K » 25 Mar 2010 14:43
The only reason I can see for you wanting the original key to that lock instead of rekeying it is that that key goes to another lock. Perhaps one you either don't have access to or is in use. 
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by Josh K » 25 Mar 2010 14:44
Besides, that lock looks pretty new considering the condition it's mounted on is in. If it really is your house how about a couple better pictures of maybe the entire door?
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by stevej » 25 Mar 2010 14:54
I'm not looking for a way to access other doors from this key, I didn't even know that was possible to be honest. I don't understand why pictures of the entire door would prove that this is in my house. It's clearly mounted on something, proving it to be on a door is so irrelevant.
I don't care if you don't want to give me advice because you think I'm up to something shady, just don't post anything then. All I want to know is if it is possible to have a key made for this lock, even if that key can be made to only open this single lock, without making it so previous keys can't open it.
If it is possible, what is the likelihood a locksmith will do this for me. I only want a key to access this one lock I have in my possession, so its obviously my lock. If there's a way to make it so that the key can be made so it can ONLY access this lock i have in my possession, that's great too.
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by Josh K » 25 Mar 2010 15:00
stevej wrote:I'm not looking for a way to access other doors from this key, I didn't even know that was possible to be honest. I don't understand why pictures of the entire door would prove that this is in my house. It's clearly mounted on something, proving it to be on a door is so irrelevant.
If you post a picture of the door, and the door open, that proves you're not trying to hide something by taking a closeup picture of a lock and saying "it's on a door in my house." stevej wrote:I don't care if you don't want to give me advice because you think I'm up to something shady, just don't post anything then. All I want to know is if it is possible to have a key made for this lock, even if that key can be made to only open this single lock, without making it so previous keys can't open it.
I'm simply telling you what I and other people think when they see a closely cropped picture of a lock and someone asking for information about it. Regardless of what that information might be. stevej wrote:If it is possible, what is the likelihood a locksmith will do this for me. I only want a key to access this one lock I have in my possession, so its obviously my lock. If there's a way to make it so that the key can be made so it can ONLY access this lock i have in my possession, that's great too.
Yes, a locksmith could probably make a key for that provided they have the profile for that key. If this lock is pinned the same as other locks the only way to provide you with a key that doesn't open them would be to physically change the pins.
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by Squelchtone » 25 Mar 2010 15:38
NOBODY has BEST IC Core on their house or on any door INSIDE their house.. This is clearly an apartment door or some sort of storage room in an apartment building.
It may be "your house" because it is your apartment, but paying the rent doesn't mean you own the lock. The lock and all keys belong to the landlord or owner of the building. If you DO actually have a key to this lock, you probably know it says Do Not Duplicate on the key.
A lot of people have come here in the past with a similar question because they want to make an additional key for a girlfriend, for a room mate who isn't on the lease, or because they lost the key and they know they will loose their deposit or have to pay $25-$200 for another key.
If I'm totally way off here and you actually have a BEST cylinder on a deadbolt in a house you own, which would be so far fetched, but let's just say what you're saying is legit, then take the lock off the door, take it to a locksmith who services BEST SFIC locks and say, I need a key made for this please and pay him $20 to $50 to do it. Say you got the lock at a flea market and would like to have a functioning lock and ask him to make the operator and the control key. Make sure he keeps the pins that are in there, and doesn't dump them, because then your landlord's master or control keys won't work any longer.
If you are feeling adventurous, go on ebay and buy some BEST blanks, hope they fit in that keyway, because they have about 20 different shaped keyholes, and then grab a hand file and take the lock apart and file the key so it matches the pins inside the lock. put the lock back together and try your new key out. presto.
Those are pretty much the options unless you have your own key machine.
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by geardog32 » 25 Mar 2010 16:19
What? who has one of these on there house? and if it is your house why don't you have the key? this all sounds very shady indeed.
and yes a key could be made. call a reputable locksmith.
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by stevej » 25 Mar 2010 18:32
Thank you all so much for your advice.
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by Josh K » 25 Mar 2010 21:51
stevej wrote:Thank you all so much for your advice.
No problem. 
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by unlisted » 4 Apr 2010 3:55
Yes, everyone, yet another US college student posting photos of a door at his college. I know where your IP address returns to, OP.Shall I post which college you attend? Or shall I call your college and provide them your computer details, etc? Nice try, everyone here knows the only people with BEST on the interior of their house is me. (and abloy on the exterior) 
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by SnowyBoy » 4 Apr 2010 15:43
unlisted wrote:Yes, everyone, yet another US college student posting photos of a door at his college. I know where your IP address returns to, OP.Shall I post which college you attend? Or shall I call your college and provide them your computer details, etc? Nice try, everyone here knows the only people with BEST on the interior of their house is me. (and abloy on the exterior) 
Totally f***ing epic 
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!
I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
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by FarmerFreak » 5 Apr 2010 11:16
Putting everything else that has been mentioned aside for a moment.
"Will" a locksmith make a key for this lock? no
Why? because 99 percent of the time these locks are masterkeyed and any respectable locksmith knows that, and won't waste his/her time trying to make you a key that could potentially be a masterkey. This applies even if it is on your own personal home.
I suppose if you hired a backyarder locksmith that didn't know any better. But then it's a good bet that your lock will be drilled out.
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by Evan » 5 Apr 2010 17:34
[edit- not really a good idea to be posting information once a moderator has left a "negative" comment... -unlisted]
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by MacGyver101 » 5 Apr 2010 18:09
Evan wrote:[...] it seems sad that a college would be relying on a non-patent protected and unrestricted keyway like the one in the picture to secure anything in a dormitory...
Hrm. I wouldn't consider it that unusual or "sad", especially if the building is 15 or more years old (which is the case for most college/university buildings). In the age of instant software updates I think that we sometimes forget that physical security changes cost a lot of time and money in large institutions with thousands of locks and hundreds of keyholders. Best IC's have some huge advantages in terms of ongoing maintenance ease/cost... and are way better than the Schlage and Yale knock-offs that secured most of the residence doors in my day (which wasn't that long ago).  10 years from now people will look at the locks that were installed today with Primus cylinders and say "I can't believe they're not using electronic cylinders".  Just my $0.02. 
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by unlisted » 5 Apr 2010 21:12
Locked.
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