My first 2 weeks as an apprentice lockpicker

[BaronVonP]

Hi folks,
I started picking a couple weeks ago, I did pick all the old padlocks (not in use) I have but they are rather disappointing (low quality, I can pick all of them within 5 seconds) and a pair of handcuffs.

Then I found a tough one which I can't pick yet: it's from a pre-war safebox (I know I can't ask for help because I think it's advanced), I took it apart to check the mechanism and it's rather interesting.. looks like a lever lock with some safety mechanism inside (don't know the names yet, I'm trying to learn though) which prevent the bolt from moving if you manipulate them in the wrong order or apply too much torque on the levers.
I can't pick it with lockpicks because there's a cylinder on the keyway that will rotate when you rotate the key and you can't reach the levers until you have turned the key (and cylinder) so much that it's almost impossible (for me) to move the picks inside.
So I figured I'll make myself a 2in1 and try with that - I think it should work.

If I'm not allowed to post that, I hope a mod can edit this post - I'm not asking for any help and the lock is clearly mine (since I have the key to open it and was able to take it apart to see how it works).

I'm going to buy some locks and tougher padlocks soon, I went to a couple local hardware stores but their prices are so steep it's just not worth it when you don't know what you're buying.. I'll drive to a big hardware store as soon as I have time - or buy something on ebay.

P.S.->if anyone knows a good website to buy locks from (in europe), I'd appreciate it. I'm also looking for tips on good locks to buy, something that will keep me busy for a while but that is considered good for a beginner.

[MacGyver101]

I'm far from an expert on older lever locks, but just to help you along with finding resources...

The "rotating cylinder" that you're describing is properly called a "curtain"... and you're absolutely correct: its job is to make it harder to pick, as it normally rotates with the key and restricts both the keyway and access to the levers.

I'm assuming that the "safety mechanism" that you describe is some variant of a Chubb detector lock; those locks have a spring-loaded latch that will trap any lever(s) that you lift too high while trying to pick the lock.

[EmCee]

Sounds like you have an interesting lock to play with.

The safety mechanism you mention is called a 'relocker' and is designed to stop the bolts retracting if manipulation attempts are detected.

A 2in1 pick won't help with a curtain lever lock - for that you need a...errm...curtain pick (well, at least lockpicking mainly uses obvious terminology), which comprises a tool to turn the curtain and tension the bolt and a separate wire to lift the levers.

For practice locks, a suggestion made to me was to visit local uPVC installers and ask if they have any old locks (from old doors they have replaced).

Cheers...