Re-pinning lock with the same keycode

[Ffojt]

Hi,

Im new both here and to the art of lockpicking. I have managed to get my hands on an old regular 7 pin pin tumbler lock, so my plan was to simply remove every pin exceot fromthe first, and wprk my way from there. The only problem is that I need a working key to repin it, so when I add new pins they have to be in the same order as the original pin-setting. How can I make sure I put the pins back in the right order?

[EmCee]

Hi Ffojt

I'm not sure from reading your post whether you already have a key. If you do, then after taking the barrel out, put the key in and then drop the pins in. If the tops of the pins line up flush with the top of the barrel they are in the 'right' order for the key. If any of the pins are raised up or too low then they are in the wrong position in relation to the key. The differences in height might be slight, but if you run a finger along the barrel you should be able to feel if any pin is too high.

Cheers..

[Ffojt]

I already have a key. Thanks a lot

[Ffojt]

Quik follow-up question: Are all springs and driver-pins equal?

[criminalhate]

Yes and no


Some locks can have different size driver pins but most do not. Springs should be the same.

[Ffojt]

OK. I realized the key pins should be fairly easy to keep track of, I just put them in separate containers marked with their number, but when the driver pins and burst out of the bible they mght be hard to keep track of.
Im sorry for all the bad spelling, I only have an iPod touch right now...

[criminalhate]

what brand of lock is it? Or can you take a picture of it? If not then just take it apart the driver pins should be the same. Plus the key will still work even if they're different the only reason they have different sizes is to protect the springs (over compressing or under compressed).

[Ffojt]

I dont really have the lock yet, Im picking it up today. I was about to purchase one when i remembered I knew someone whp yad one lying around. I think I will be fine anyways, with 7 pin sets there are 21 possible combinations. Im from norway so the lock is most likely Trioving.

[EmCee]

As criminalhate said, the driver pins are most likely to be the same. However, if you're worried then after removing the circlip just slide the barrel/plug out very slowly, so that it uncovers one chamber at a time...remove that pin and spring and put it in a numbered container like you will with the key pins...then slide the barrel out a fraction more until the next pin and spring can be removed...etc...

More fun to be had putting the springs and driver pins back in, of course...decent tweezers can make things easier, then you need a small/flat/thin tool (maybe a screwdriver or a pick) to press the pin into its chamber against the spring while you slide the barrel/plug back in (making sure the barrel is turned of course, so that the holes do not line up with the chambers until the barrel is fully in).

Cheers...

[shadow11612]

If you are looking to have the pins out for a short time, a good solution is to buy or make a pinning tray. See the 5th item down on this LAB page (http://www.lab-lockpins.com/htm/ccl.html).

If you are looking to have somewhere to place the pins for a longer period. An easy way to keep track of them is to use clear "scotch" type tape. Tear off a 3-4 inch piece, mark the ends to signify the front and rear of the plug, then as you remove the pins place them onto the tape. If you plan on storing the pins for an extended period, place a second piece of tape over the first.

[Poff]

Hi,

Im new both here and to the art of lockpicking. I have managed to get my hands on an old regular 7 pin pin tumbler lock, so my plan was to simply remove every pin exceot fromthe first, and wprk my way from there. The only problem is that I need a working key to repin it, so when I add new pins they have to be in the same order as the original pin-setting. How can I make sure I put the pins back in the right order?

Small Plano boxes also work well. They have some with 6 or 7 compartments and are $2 or so at Walmart or fishing stores..