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Old Corbin padlock

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Old Corbin padlock

Postby femurat » 1 Apr 2011 5:24

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A friend of mine made me this gift. I was surprised, how the heck this padlock arrived in his house? I don't know. This is an old Corbin, made in Canada. The padlock body seems made of 2 parts, the front and the back, soldered together. The key has its code stamped on the bow, but the local locksmith said it's impossible to duplicate it. I was not interested in another key, just in his reaction :twisted:
Picking this was not difficult, it's a simple wafer lock and has a huge plug with a lot of space at the bottom for fitting my wrench without invading the keyway or touching the cylinder. Maybe I have to shoot another picture to better show the keyway.

This seems the old locks period for me.

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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby chriswingate » 1 Apr 2011 8:13

Very nice lock, I like the old ones like that.

Question, how is it impossible for the locksmith to duplicate it? I suppose if you wanted to do it by code, then yeah deciphering that might be an issue. Couldn't the locksmith just find a suitable blank that fits the key way, then run it in the duplicating machine?

Either way, cool lock, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby femurat » 1 Apr 2011 8:34

The locksmith I asked hadn't a blank in his shop. He was sure that such a old blank was no longer available.

He didn't noticed (or mentioned) the code on the key! So I didn't mention it, he was worried enough by the key itself.

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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby chriswingate » 1 Apr 2011 8:38

Yeah, he may not have had it on hand since it is pretty old, but I bet with a little research and a book of blanks, or the internet, a suitable blank could be found, if not the original one.
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby femurat » 1 Apr 2011 8:49

In my country you never hear "locksmith" and "internet" in the same sentence... :cry:
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby chriswingate » 1 Apr 2011 8:52

Locksmithing is still a crazy secret "only passed down through apprentices" trade in Italy?
You should fine a blank that fits it, duplicate a key and show him :mrgreen:
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby Theist17 » 1 Apr 2011 9:56

Oh goodness. We're so mean to some lockies on this forum.

Cool lock, though. Any ideas on how old it is?
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby Evan » 1 Apr 2011 13:32

chriswingate wrote:Very nice lock, I like the old ones like that.

Question, how is it impossible for the locksmith to duplicate it? I suppose if you wanted to do it by code, then yeah deciphering that might be an issue. Couldn't the locksmith just find a suitable blank that fits the key way, then run it in the duplicating machine?

Either way, cool lock, thanks for sharing.



@chriswingate:


The impossibility of obtaining a duplicate of a given key is based on what Country you and the key you need/wish to have duplicated find yourself... A key which is easy to have copied anyplace where keys are made in one country might be a keyblank directory exploration and a special order adventure in another that takes a couple of weeks to obtain the correct blanks to make the key...

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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby chriswingate » 1 Apr 2011 13:56

Evan wrote:@chriswingate:


The impossibility of obtaining a duplicate of a given key is based on what Country you and the key you need/wish to have duplicated find yourself... A key which is easy to have copied anyplace where keys are made in one country might be a keyblank directory exploration and a special order adventure in another that takes a couple of weeks to obtain the correct blanks to make the key...

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I know, I didn't look at his location and forgot he was in Italy when I wrote that post. Obviously key blanks to a lot of American locks and such would be hard to come by in Italy.
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby Evan » 1 Apr 2011 14:23

femurat wrote:A friend of mine made me this gift. I was surprised, how the heck this padlock arrived in his house? I don't know. This is an old Corbin, made in Canada. The padlock body seems made of 2 parts, the front and the back, soldered together. The key has its code stamped on the bow, but the local locksmith said it's impossible to duplicate it. I was not interested in another key, just in his reaction
Picking this was not difficult, it's a simple wafer lock and has a huge plug with a lot of space at the bottom for fitting my wrench without invading the keyway or touching the cylinder. Maybe I have to shoot another picture to better show the keyway.

This seems the old locks period for me.



@femurat:

That is an older lock, just how old I am not sure... However, similar locks are still made to this day...

Corbin Cabinet Lock which separated from Corbin a long time ago and would have stopped making locks using the "Corbin" logo at that same time is today known as CCL Security Products...

<< External link to the CCL Security Products website >>

The current equivalent to the lock you posted pictures of is called a HUSKI padlock...

Your example is a 6-wafer cylinder with the "JR" key section... I haven't personally come across the code series your particular lock uses: BRJ546 but it possible that those codes were used geographically by the manufacturer...

I am familiar with the "CAT" and "AUE" code series of CCL products, the "AUE" series is available masterkeyed with 700 change keys...

The current version of your padlock is re-keyable, I don't know if that means your example is also re-keyable in the same manner but here is a link to the re-key instruction sheet...

<< External link to download HUSKI padlock re-key instruction sheet file: 66.pdf >>

Anyone in the US or Canada should be able to provide you with keyblanks for your lock...
The Ilco catalog number for the blanks is: 1000T (EZ: CO12)

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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby femurat » 4 Apr 2011 8:09

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In the previous picture the keyway was not clearly visible, so I took another one.

Hey chriswingate, I'm not a show-off person. My own conviction is enough for me.

About the blank key availability, maybe I visited the wrong locksmith... I was just curious, I don't need it.
Thanks anyway for your research Evan. I've read their website and manuals. My padlock looks different from their modern production. But you made me wish to check if the plug is removable. I'll let you know.

Hey Theist17, I have nothing against locksmiths. Unfortunately I have no idea about my lock age.

Cheers :)
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby Theist17 » 4 Apr 2011 14:08

femurat wrote:Image

Hey Theist17, I have nothing against locksmiths. Unfortunately I have no idea about my lock age.

Cheers :)


Ha, no hard feelings. 'twas but a joke.
Such a shame about the lack on info on the age, though.
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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby Evan » 4 Apr 2011 19:58

femurat wrote:About the blank key availability, maybe I visited the wrong locksmith... I was just curious, I don't need it.
Thanks anyway for your research Evan. I've read their website and manuals. My padlock looks different from their modern production. But you made me wish to check if the plug is removable. I'll let you know.



@femurat:

You are referring to the different casting mold used for your lock and the current production models...

Every other aspect of the lock's construction is identical other than the shape of the padlock body casting...

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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby femurat » 5 Apr 2011 2:06

Yes Evan, everything but the lock body looks exactly the same.
I've just checked and unfortunately my lock is not rekeyable.

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Re: Old Corbin padlock

Postby Theist17 » 5 Apr 2011 8:47

Anything is rekeyable with enough dremels and JB Weld!
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