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Knox padlock

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Knox padlock

Postby Mathias » 29 Aug 2011 15:48

I have seen these locks popping up everywhere around where I live so I wanted to see if anyone had picked one and I have found no videos or anything about the lock and I wanted to know if there is somewhere I could buy one and I wanted to know if anyone reading this might have popped one open.




http://www.knoxbox.com/store/Knox-Padlocks.cfm
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Re: Knox padlock

Postby Squelchtone » 29 Aug 2011 16:27

Mathias wrote:I have seen these locks popping up everywhere around where I live so I wanted to see if anyone had picked one and I have found no videos or anything about the lock and I wanted to know if there is somewhere I could buy one and I wanted to know if anyone reading this might have popped one open.

http://www.knoxbox.com/store/Knox-Padlocks.cfm



There's no legit reason any one would need to be picking these or learning how to pick them. They're used on businesses to secure gates and common doors where a Knox Box cannot be easily installed. Typically the Fire Department for that city has the keys, they are keys made by Medeco and open every single Knox Box and Knox Padlock in that city. Other cities near by may also have Knox Boxes on businesses, but the keys wont work from city to city. The point of the Knox Boxes and Knox padlocks is so the firemen going to a fire or emergency do not have to carry a huge key ring full of keys to all the business in town, instead they carry 1 Medeco key which lets them open the Knox Boxes and get the keys or prox card to the building out of the Knox Box, so they don't have to smash the door down. When they're done opening the door, the keys to the business go back in the Knox Box and it gets locked back up. The padlocks may be used on something like a gate leading up to a cell tower or construction site or lumber yard, and usually has another padlock next to it that the property owner uses.

If you're just starting out on picking locks, the Medeco cylinders that Knox has been using for many years are not an easy lock to pick for a beginner.

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Re: Knox padlock

Postby maintenanceguy » 29 Aug 2011 17:53

Knox boxes and Knox locks can only be purchased by having your local fire department fill out their part of the order form first.

The local fire department has a key that opens every knox lock or knox box in town. These locks allow the fire department access in a fire. Knox boxes contain a key to the commercial building they are mounted on and allow the fire department access to a working key in a fire.

They typically use medeco biaxal cylinders.
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Re: Knox padlock

Postby MacGyver101 » 29 Aug 2011 19:23

maintenanceguy wrote:They typically use medeco biaxal cylinders.

Really? I thought they were usually the traditional Medeco camlocks? (Sorry: not trying to be pedantic... just honestly curious.)
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Re: Knox padlock

Postby Squelchtone » 29 Aug 2011 19:57

MacGyver101 wrote:
maintenanceguy wrote:They typically use medeco biaxal cylinders.

Really? I thought they were usually the traditional Medeco camlocks? (Sorry: not trying to be pedantic... just honestly curious.)


they are cam locks where the cam is actually a metal plate that locks the door at the top and bottom of the door, but the mechanism inside is Medeco Biaxial with fore and aft cuts with lift and twist pins just like Medeco Original has (but I think you're actually asking cam lock core vs. mortise cylinder, in which case, they use cam lock.)

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Re: Knox padlock

Postby MacGyver101 » 29 Aug 2011 21:17

squelchtone wrote:. . . but the mechanism inside is Medeco Biaxial with fore and aft cuts with lift and twist pins just like Medeco Original has . . .

Ah, neat.

Thanks for that! For some reason, I thought they used the Medeco "camlock" cores (i.e., where there isn't a shear line and driver/bottom-pin, but instead just a single pin in each chamber with a hole drilled in for the sidebar).

I apparently never looked closely enough. :D
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Re: Knox padlock

Postby Squelchtone » 29 Aug 2011 21:21

MacGyver101 wrote:
squelchtone wrote:. . . but the mechanism inside is Medeco Biaxial with fore and aft cuts with lift and twist pins just like Medeco Original has . . .

Ah, neat.

Thanks for that! For some reason, I thought they used the Medeco "camlock" cores (i.e., where there isn't a shear line and driver/bottom-pin, but instead just a single pin in each chamber with a hole drilled in for the sidebar).

I apparently never looked closely enough. :D


Yep, and they have cam locks with the holes in the pins that also have fore and aft chisel tips. side bar has round fingers to mate with the round holes in the pins, and there is no top pins, so you are correct.

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Re: Knox padlock

Postby MacGyver101 » 29 Aug 2011 21:25

squelchtone wrote:Yep, and they have cam locks with the holes in the pins that also have fore and aft chisel tips.

Well, you learn something new every day. Thanks!

(...and MacGyver101 goes off to have a closer look at his camlocks...) :D
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