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How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby MacGyver101 » 31 Aug 2011 16:58

Evan wrote:I haven't ever seen a Y13 lock that wasn't wafers...

MacGyver101 have you seen the Y13 keyway used with pin tumbler locks ?

Hrm... okay: I may be completely misremembering then (and, if so, my apologies to psehorne!)

I thought I recalled those as being for an older, pin-tumbler lock from Yale (and the fact that everyone seemed to have bumpkeys seemed to fit with that)... but you've been working with locks far longer than I, so, of the two of us, my money would be on you for this one. ;)
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby psehorne » 31 Aug 2011 16:59

MacGyver101 wrote:
psehorne wrote:... it's just that the impressioning marks from your lock probably aren't going to show up in the same place as the pins of an original pin-tumbler lock that was designed to take a Y13.


Just confirming that I understand your comment. And Thanks.

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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby psehorne » 31 Aug 2011 17:02

Evan wrote:I haven't ever seen a Y13 lock that wasn't wafers...


Great! Then I may be on the right track after all.

Thanks,
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby Wizer » 31 Aug 2011 23:38

psehorne wrote:
Wizer wrote:I assume you are in USA, so against my principles I post these in thousnds of an inch:
Spacing, first cut from shoulder 125, then 94,94,94,94.
Depth: 1=250,2=230,3=210,4=190,5=170.

Hope this helps!


Where did you get this information? And, could I have found it myself on the internet somewhere?

Thanks,
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I dug it out from my keycutting software. Specs are propably somewhere on the internet, but I have not searched for them.
Remember, that the lock could be worn. The cut depths may not be exact.
Like Fumurat said, post a photo of your first attempt. We all like photos much! :)
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby Wizer » 31 Aug 2011 23:40

:lol:
...sorry, FEMURAT!
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby shadow11612 » 1 Sep 2011 5:50

Just putting it out there, the 2SWK132AL101 part number does not contain the key code. It is just the lock part number.
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby Evan » 1 Sep 2011 14:57

shadow11612 wrote:Just putting it out there, the 2SWK132AL101 part number does not contain the key code. It is just the lock part number.


@shadow11612:

Pretty strong case supported by prima facie evidence suggests that the part number for the keyswitch does contain the blind code number for the key that operates it...

<< external link to digikey.com's product page for part number 2SWK132AL101 >>

Which contains the following image:

<< external link to 2SWK132AL101.jpg >>

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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby psehorne » 1 Sep 2011 15:55

Evan wrote:I haven't ever seen a Y13 lock that wasn't wafers...


The data sheets calls these "5 Disc Tumblers". Is 'disc tumbler' the same as 'wafers'.
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby Evan » 1 Sep 2011 16:54

psehorne wrote:
Evan wrote:I haven't ever seen a Y13 lock that wasn't wafers...


The data sheets calls these "5 Disc Tumblers". Is 'disc tumbler' the same as 'wafers'.


@psehorne:

Yes... A "disc tumbler" is a "wafer pin"... Both of those terms describe a disc which is only moved up and down by the key... They are quite different from a "rotating disc" which involves the key interacting with the disc to rotate it in place rather than lifting the pin up and down inside the lock...

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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby shadow11612 » 2 Sep 2011 5:49

Evan wrote:Pretty strong case supported by prima facie evidence suggests that the part number for the keyswitch does contain the blind code number for the key that operates it...
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I was wrong. And after I looked at your provided pics, I know why. I assumed, and without looking at a picture of the key, that is was not the key it actually is.

The key code of "AL101" is for a Hudson "furniture" key. And that is the key the switch company is using for the key switch. I would bet money that every switch they make is using the same key code, and that is why it is included in the switch part number.
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby psehorne » 6 Sep 2011 12:51

I took the easy way out. I bought a new lock with 2 keys. I've copied the keys and will not probably put the new lock and keys on eBay. In any event, I will not spend time impressioning this. I have a more pressing project that will probably require impressioning that I am moving on to.

Thanks for everyone's contributions, suggestions, etc.
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Re: How do I obtain cutting codes from a key number

Postby psehorne » 6 Sep 2011 15:38

psehorne wrote: I've copied the keys and will not probably put the new lock and keys on eBay.

I meant "...will now probably put the new lock and keys on eBay..."
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