Schlage Primus Key

[kaelanh]

Hey everyone,
Today I was working at the lock shop when the director came up to me with a Primus Key that was found on one of our campuses. Now, we do not use primus at the schools, just everest. It has a facility code on it and I called IR and found out it belonged to a school district not too far away. My question is, does IR have a website where you can input a facility ID and it will tell you who it belongs to? It would really save alot of time rather than being transfered to 15 different people and then back to the one you started with. Evan? anyone?

[MacGyver101]

My question is, does IR have a website where you can input a facility ID and it will tell you who it belongs to?

Hrm. I hope they don't... it wouldn't be far from just stamping the blanks with "If Found, This Key Opens Doors at ABC Co."

[GWiens2001]

It might not be a bad idea to have a stamp with the locksmith's shop name on the key. Then, if the key is returned to the locksmith, he might have an idea, based on the code, where it goes. Just my 2 cents.

[lock2006]

Yes i agree with MacGyver101 on this
i guess you just have to do your own search and find out
if they can tell you more info about it .

[misterj]

It might not be a bad idea to have a stamp with the locksmith's shop name on the key. Then, if the key is returned to the locksmith, he might have an idea, based on the code, where it goes. Just my 2 cents.

For Primus systems, there isn't always a locksmith involved. For instance, I work in a building with a Classic Level 3G system (which would be pretty typical for a decent-sized school). The cylinders, blanks, keys, etc. are all drop-shipped to our building because the side bitting is exclusive to the building (for anywhere with the same first two zip code digits anyway).

[GWiens2001]

Didn't know that it was by zip code that the sidebar coding was delegated. You never know what you will learn here.

[misterj]

Didn't know that it was by zip code that the sidebar coding was delegated. You never know what you will learn here.

For the end-user exclusive levels, you could also have a unique sidebar bitting for your time zone, but you would need a larger system for Schlage to give you that (I think it's >2000 cylinders). For whatever it's worth, our Primus keys don't have the factory registration number stamped on them (just the key symbol for the changes and nothing at all for the masters). Not sure if this is the norm or not.

[misterj]

Little bit more on Primus Levels:

[misterj]

...and some information on the end-user exclusive levels (3 is Classic, 9 is Everest):

Level 3U
Fewer than 60 Cylinders
Schlage randomly assigns a side bitting from a small
pool of combinations which may be repeated locally
There are no guarantees of geographical exclusivity

Level 3G (Geographical)
More than 60 cylinders
Schlage assigns an exclusive side bitting based on the
first two digits of the end user’s zip code

Level 4Z (Time Zone)
Minimum of 2000 cylinders over two years or pay a fee
End user buys exclusivity of one side bitting within his
time zone and country

Level 4N (Nationwide)
Minimum of 4000 cylinders over two years or pay a fee
End user buys nationwide exclusivity of one side bitting

Level 9U (Universal)
Fewer than 60 Cylinders
Schlage randomly assigns a side bitting from a small
pool of combinations which may be repeated locally
There are no guarantees of geographical exclusivity

Level 9G (Geographical)
More than 60 cylinders
Schlage assigns an exclusive side bitting based on the
first two digits of the end user’s zip code

Level 9Z (Time Zone)
Minimum of 2000 cylinders over two years or pay a fee
End user buys exclusivity of one side bitting within his
time zone and country

Level 9N (Nationwide)
Minimum of 4000 cylinders over two years or pay a fee
End user buys nationwide exclusivity of one side bitting