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Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

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Re: Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

Postby Squelchtone » 18 Jan 2013 10:48

mmcc wrote:Well, I tried the shim. It made no difference to the tactile feedback and the notches could not be felt. Other than the standardised combinations, I don't see a valid attack for this lock.

Anymore ideas???


Yes, a pair of crops.

I find it funny that you don't believe there is no attack vector for this lock, and I'm puzzled why you're so stuck on it. It is what it is, people don't always come up with a novel new bypass or pick tool within a week of staring at a lock mechanism. There are many men who have spent the last 150 years making locks so others would not easily get into them, and there are also men who came up with some tricks for some locks, but I hear you talking about creating tools or bypasses for this lock, for Abloy Protec, for the ERA BS lever locks, and I wonder where is this drive for sudden need for bypassing all locks coming from?

Some of these ideas are very creative, but some like pneumatics to lift pins or levers are just straight out of a Jason Bourne or James Bond movie. Sure, anything is theoretically possible, but you don't just stop by the DIY store and buy a portable radar unit, or micro pneumatic actuators or whatever other gadgets. Maybe the CIA/MI6 have these toys, but to try to hand build them on your work bench and expect instant results is fraught with peril. Maybe if you have a full work shop, machine shop, $100,000 and 6 months to work on a tool for a Protec decoder, you'd get somewhere with Adruino controllers, but all these ideas seem like a school boys fanciful imagination, not real down to earth research and development. Don't mean to burst your bubble, but I think it would be better to pick some locks, or take some locks apart and learn them, than to go through all these fruitless thought exercises and theoretical tools and attacks. Let's get back to talking about real picking not all these wacky ideas and spy movie gadgets.

Perhaps we need a thread dedicated to "Experimental / Theoretical pick tools and methods that would be cool to build if time and money were no object"

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Re: Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

Postby Legion303 » 18 Jan 2013 10:56

squelchtone wrote:Perhaps we need a thread dedicated to "Experimental / Theoretical pick tools and methods that would be cool to build if time and money were no object"


Sounds like a new subforum to me. Make it so!

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Re: Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

Postby mmcc » 18 Jan 2013 11:02

I agree, a new sub-forum for thinking outside the box would be great. Btw, I can build radars...and I break into secure systems for a living, so physical security is just an extension of my work. :)
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Re: Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

Postby Squelchtone » 18 Jan 2013 11:42

Sounds good to me, I will work on that this coming week, as well as a sub forum dedicated to Bumping =)

Have a good weekend everybody
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Re: Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

Postby mmcc » 21 Jan 2013 18:15

Excellent, I have a few good topics to get the ball rolling.
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Re: Combination Dial Padlock - Help needed

Postby mmcc » 22 Jan 2013 19:01

For those interested, the fastest way into these locks is [SNIP]

Other than that, make a list of the standard combinations.
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Reason: I don't care how obvious it is, destructive entry techniques are not discussed in the open sections.
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