make a kwikset cylinder removal tool?

[PickPick]

I think either High Tech Tools or Tech Train had one in their tool catalog.

Jay, I found it:
http://secure.kaizensolutions.com/techt ... uct_ID=348

[gvlocksmith]

Question #1: Removing the cylinder from a knob or lever?

Question #2: Removing the cylinder with the bottom pins (i.e., the core of the cylinder) from the housing cylinder that contains the top pins?

As far as I am aware, there are plenty of tools to sufficiently remove Kwikset cylinders by using very non invasive procedures that leave everything intact.

In fact, I do it almost every day when I am re-keying homes. I think somebody is attempting to dream up something for which they have no understanding of.

There is one area that needs to be explored in dealing with lockpicking, and that has to do with making sure drilling is only as a last resort. I believe another buffer before drilling should be carefully examined. And I believe there is a much simpler way to deal with the sheer line after a recalcitrant lock won't budge. When you are staring into the keyway that you are trying to pick, the first thing that should be visible is the first bottom pin. Using a narrow tool, extract that pin through whatever method possible (i.e., cutting the pin with a narror and sharp object, etc.). Follow that procedure for second, third, fourth, fifth, and, if there is one, sixth pins.

Congratulations when you do this for a stubborn lock that just won't pick. You have just effectively dealt with the sheer line without firing up a single drill bit.

So, why haven't I heard about any tools designed to extract pins from inside of the lock? We have key extractor sets, but not pin extractor sets?

Cordially,
Mark

[Varjeal]

gvlocksmith:

So, why haven't I heard about any tools designed to extract pins from inside of the lock? We have key extractor sets, but not pin extractor sets?

Good question, and if you can come up with a method, patent it. *seriously*

Here are some of the problems involved with that idea that must be overcome. (in no particular order of importance)

1. keyway warding. As you most likely work with a wide variety of locks, you can probably understand the complexity in coming up with a tool that can effectively FIT into some of the keyways available.

2. keyway warding. As you are most likely aware, keyway warding also prevents the pins from tilting. In order to pull them out either the warding would have to be removed, or the pins "made" so small as to bypass this warding.

3. size of tool necessary. The tool would have to be extremely small, extremely tough, and extremely sharp.

There are probably other issues, but those are the three big ones, and yes, I know I mentioned warding twice. For a reason.

[Mad Mick]

I can think of one such tool to remove the key pins...a cordless Dremel, but you are then stuck with the problem of the driver pins...and springs...and all the brass dust strewn throughout the keyway.

[clatch1981]

I made one out of a spoon handle using a pair of tin snips to cut the round tip flat then a set of mini file file down the sides of the handle to fit in the recess hole in the back of the knob. Then I filed the V sshape in the center of the handle. It worked like a charm but I'm gonna try some different materials and variations

[Squelchtone]

Congrats on replying to a thread for 9 years ago =) That's called Necromancing. That's gotta be a record! All in good fun though, glad someone is reading the old posts and not just blindly posting a new thread.

Welcome to the forum!
Squelchtone

[MrWizard]

You can make or buy the standard tool or buy or make the one that really works effortlessly like magic. Some cylinders are hard to remove with the old standard tool. Here is a link to a post I made with the best one I have ever used and how to make your own.

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=56134&p=408235&hilit=kwikset+cylinder+removal+tool#p408235

Richard