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High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

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High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

Postby ltdbjd » 5 Aug 2016 9:42

Not sure how I wanted to start this post.

1) So I have this lock and I just can't seem to pick it. I have the key, so I know the bitting. It's just such a difficult pinning pattern it's got me all flustered. I think this is an extreme case of the difficulties with high-low pins. Or,

2) WTF was quality control (yes, I know how to spell "quality," I was making a funny in the title) thinking when they passed this lock through??? That's a factory original key I found when I opened the box to install it.

I'll go with #2. I had to add that key to my "stupid key" collection.

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Re: High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

Postby GWiens2001 » 5 Aug 2016 11:30

Is the lock a SmartKey?

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Re: High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

Postby ltdbjd » 6 Aug 2016 23:43

Yes it was. I worked for a residential real estate company at the time. They purchased 5 to 8 houses a day at foreclosure auctions. I broke into them (provided they were vacant of course), and we used the SmartKey to replace the locks. I was pretty good back then at picking. Practice makes perfect. Not so much any more.

It was kind of nice, I kept many of the locks I removed from the houses since they were just thrown away. I had hundreds of them at one time. When I moved, I didn't want to haul them around, and didn't have much use for that many locks anyway. I ended up going to Locksport in Los Angeles and donated them to Datagrams group.
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Re: High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

Postby GWiens2001 » 7 Aug 2016 6:25

SmartKey locks are a different animal. They are not a pin tumbler lock, and are quite a bit more difficult to pick than a standard Kwikset.

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Re: High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

Postby sisk » 7 Aug 2016 11:34

GWiens2001 wrote:SmartKey locks are a different animal. They are not a pin tumbler lock, and are quite a bit more difficult to pick than a standard Kwikset.

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Seconded. We all know how stupid easy most Kwiksets are, but those smartkey locks...With that bitting on a smart key lock you'd have to go through around 4 dozen false gates by my count before you got the thing open. Not too big a challenge for an intermediate picker who's familiar with them, but someone who doesn't have much experience (such as a typical criminal who's trying to pick their way through a door) is going to be there all day.
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Re: High Ckwaliti Kwikset Lock

Postby ltdbjd » 7 Aug 2016 13:00

You guys are taking all the fun out of it! I'm trying to pick on Kwikset (ha, I made a punny), and you are trying to interject logic, reason, truthfulness, experience, and reality into it. It's like you take all this lock picking stuff seriously or something. :D

On a more serious note though, that's why I didn't bother picking or decoding them. I made my own set up for destructive entry, and considered the job done. Even the tools made for certain knob bypasses (I'm trying to tread lightly, thus the vagueness) don't work on the SmartKey due to the way the "pins" are manufactured.
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