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Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

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Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Punkty24 » 5 Apr 2017 15:47

http://imgur.com/tOZXn6l


Need help identifying this keyway for procurement of blanks for impressioning practice.(this is a REVERSE image don't forget, its taken from the back of the plug, was clearer that way)...
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby billdeserthills » 5 Apr 2017 16:39

Good One! :lol:
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby jimu57 » 5 Apr 2017 16:42

Looks like General but cant find an exact match.
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby RedE » 5 Apr 2017 16:57

I just went through the silca and ilco catalogs. Nothing looked right on, but there were many close ones. Is there a brand on the other side of that cylinder?
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Punkty24 » 6 Apr 2017 13:39

RedE wrote:I just went through the silca and ilco catalogs. Nothing looked right on, but there were many close ones. Is there a brand on the other side of that cylinder?



No, no branding on the cylinder face, none on the key bow, and I am well and truly stumped :(

What's the cheapest easy entrie blank production milling available, does anybody know??
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Squelchtone » 6 Apr 2017 14:35

Punkty24 wrote:
RedE wrote:I just went through the silca and ilco catalogs. Nothing looked right on, but there were many close ones. Is there a brand on the other side of that cylinder?



No, no branding on the cylinder face, none on the key bow, and I am well and truly stumped :(

What's the cheapest easy entrie blank production milling available, does anybody know??


quite often the key bow shape will tell us the manufacturer, do you have access to the key so we can see a photo of it please?

Also, how many pins is it? 5,6, or 7?

Thanks
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I flipped the keyway as if we are looking at it from the front.
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EDIT: page 176 Silca catalog, UNION UNI34R looks very very similar but not a perfect match. since Union is from England, and OP is from England, perhaps it is another Union keyway? maybe email a Union factory sales rep?

good luck!
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Punkty24 » 6 Apr 2017 16:31

Squelchtone wrote:
Punkty24 wrote:
RedE wrote:I just went through the silca and ilco catalogs. Nothing looked right on, but there were many close ones. Is there a brand on the other side of that cylinder?



No, no branding on the cylinder face, none on the key bow, and I am well and truly stumped :(

What's the cheapest easy entrie blank production milling available, does anybody know??


quite often the key bow shape will tell us the manufacturer, do you have access to the key so we can see a photo of it please?

Also, how many pins is it? 5,6, or 7?

Thanks
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I flipped the keyway as if we are looking at it from the front.
ImageImage

EDIT: page 176 Silca catalog, UNION UNI34R looks very very similar but not a perfect match. since Union is from England, and OP is from England, perhaps it is another Union keyway? maybe email a Union factory sales rep?

good luck!



http://imgur.com/YWxrvPB
http://imgur.com/3jNJsbw
http://imgur.com/Jb3lEGC
http://imgur.com/OLqhMEk

Apologies for the lowres offering re:key images, my GOOD phone is currently servicing the devil, orally, for monetary and street cred gain, I'm afraid, so I'm back to (in a similar way to a fat ex-partner..) my old, slightly inferior handset, which has been patiently waiting for my new drop dead gorgeous model-material handset to, as previously mentioned, start cheating on me with aforesaid devil.



Do any of these help anyway?its 6pins plus one kallotte...
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Squelchtone » 6 Apr 2017 16:49

Based on the bow and that dimple it looks like GeGe pExtra key / keyway is that a lockie phone number on the bow? These blanks are restricted and you would have to contact the lockie who originally cut and sold those keys, its doubtful they would sell someone blanks since one could possibly make bump keys with them.

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http://www.kaba.com/access-control/media/892656/v8/File/gege-pextra-factsheet.pdf
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby adi_picker » 6 Apr 2017 18:00

Hahaha, I think we could safely close most of these parametric ID threads with 'Its a GEGE, nuff said'.

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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Squelchtone » 6 Apr 2017 18:11

adi_picker wrote:Hahaha, I think we could safely close most of these parametric ID threads with 'Its a GEGE, nuff said'.

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I know, right?! Wasnt there another on just like this that ended up to be GeGe? :)
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Punkty24 » 6 Apr 2017 22:08

The G190/G190A from the silca catalog is the closest possibility I have been able to come across, any offerings on the chances or likelihood of that working guys....??
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Re: Need help identifying a particularly paracentric keyway

Postby Squelchtone » 6 Apr 2017 22:44

Punkty24 wrote:The G190/G190A from the silca catalog is the closest possibility I have been able to come across, any offerings on the chances or likelihood of that working guys....??


it's a restricted blank, you probably wont find it in a catalog, GeGe sells them to authorized locksmiths who sell GeGe locks. you most likely wont be finding a blank to practice impressioning that lock.

your key photos are not in focus, but is there a locksmith name and phone number on the bow? similar to this one on ebay. maybe contact the one on your key and the one on ebay? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361946357073

does the other side of your key have the GeGe logo, pics are so blurry, it's really hard to tell.

good luck
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