Sargent Door Lock

[DanArgent]

I am drawing a model of this lock. On the plate where the latch is mounted it says "Sargent 10" then "Listed F 804 H"

A google search does not give me any good information. Can anyone give me any infor on this lock? What the insides are like and how an animation should be done to dipict it being picked?

[thertel]

Well I've thus far only seen Sargent brand locks in use at institutions, so more info would be useful, such as a picture of the lock. Some Sargent brand locks have sidebars, and the sidebars can even be reversed in case of system compromised through loss of keys, or poor key control practices. Most in my experience are 7 pin but 6 pin locks do exist.

The machining tolerances used to make these locks make for a challange when picking, as can the Insanely warded keyways that are slightly paracentric.

The locks do tend to be part of a multi level maskerkeying system, which does make it marginally easier to pick the locks because there are multiple pin combinations that can be set to the shearline.


Thomas

[DanArgent]

As to the lock being hard to pick, a friend of min practiced with it for about 10 min then was able to reliabley rake it in under 30 sec.

It is a lock from an institution, it was removed from a door and was lying around the machine shop and I am drawing it for credit in a CAD class. I figure I might as well combine my interest lockpicking, help the lockpicking comunity with a tutorial animation of it being picked and get credit all in one go. The only problem is that I can't manage to dissasemble it to get all the measurments I need for the drawing, so I was wondering if someone knew more about it.

[thertel]

Okay let me elaborate when I say picking is difficult, REAL LOCKPICKING IS DIFFICULT in comparison to a kwisket, and by real lockpicking I mean setting a lock pin by pin, not haphazardly moving a rake about a lock. Sure the lock is still picked, but it sure is not very rewarding in my humble opinion.

Now I need a Sam Adams,

Thomas

[keysman]

To remove the cylinder, pick the lock, ( or use a key). On the side of the OUTSIDE knob near where the knob meets the door you will find a small hole ,with the lock cylinder turned depress the retainer through the hole , a straightened out paper clip will work.
While depressing the retainer pull the knob off the lock. Done