Removing Cylinder

[master in training]

its hard to imagine how something would hold the plug in the lock yet still allow it to turn, i would say maybe one of the other divers or springs shot into some part of the plug, but it wouldn't turn then so im not sure what would cause it to get stuck like this.

its risky, but if it comes to it, you could leave the key in and use a pair of pliers to pull the plug out, using the bit thats already out to grip onto. but like i said, its risky, if there is something inside the lock connected to it and you pull it odds are it will break. its up to you, i'd use this as a last resort.

[Mad Mick]

From what you have said, I suspect you have successfully removed the 5th plug, then the pin which locks the plug into the lock body.

As I was going from memory when giving you directions, I'd forgotten about the slot which the securing pin locates into. (I had to dig out the plug to have another look at it!) This slot starts inline with the pin stacks, as if the plug is drilled for 5 pins, but is then elongated anti-clockwise, to allow the plug to rotate clockwise. You'll now have to remove the other plugs, then remove the pins and springs, as there is no way to otherwise lift the #4 lower pin which has dropped into the 5th slot with the key still in place. Obviously, the key is now stuck in the lock!!

Some you win, some you lose. A shortcut is not always the quickest way.

[Wolf2486]

Well I finally got it out (never estimate the power of brute force). However, it didn't help much, so maybe someone can clear it up for me. Below is the picture of the pieces in the locking mechanism.



How does this system operate.
I assume (in the picture below) The green thing interacts with the dogs, and the things in blue are springs with pins/nails in them. Finally, what is the red thing for?


Thank You.

[Mad Mick]

If you assemble the two locking bolts together (there should be a corresponding mark on each bolt, for the pin/spring), then push against the spring pressure, you'll see a point at which the notches overlap This is where the dogs on the end of the plug come into play. In situ, the notches are roughly touching the dogs on the plug, but the bolts are engaged in the cutouts on the hasp. As the plug is turned clockwise, the bolts are retracted and the hasp is popped out by the spring under the heel.

The red thing is the slot I was referring to, which the #4 lower pin had dropped into...This slot is used, so that the locking pin holds the plug into the lock body and the plug is only allowed to turn approx. 90 degrees.

HTH,
Mick.

P.S. How many parts are now mangled?

[Mad Mick]

If you want a better idea of how this locking mechanism works, just re-insert the locking bolts, then close the hasp. You will see where the dogs, on the back of the plug, interact with the bolts.

[Wolf2486]

Thanks Mad Mick, and everyone else for helping. I really appreciate it. There are quite a bit of mangled parts, but for the most part, the pins came out fine, except for #4. Thanks again.