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by Crypto » 31 Jan 2005 23:48
I was looking at the new coke machines at work today. They have new tubular locks. It kinda looks like they have 3 round eyes in the middle of the lock. I was wondering what type of lock this was just incase I get a call from a vendor saying he can't get his machines open. Thanks...
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by Varjeal » 1 Feb 2005 0:10
I'll preface my comments by saying that unless your working as a locksmith you shouldn't be messing with those locks, but nothing wrong with identifying them out of curiousity.
Hmmm...a guess, but sounds like it may be a variety of Intelli-lok with some type of electronic key. Just a guess though.
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by oldlock » 1 Feb 2005 4:27
Access control by Videx (USA) not to be confused with Videx (Italy)
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by Picking_dude » 24 Aug 2005 10:48
I wonder if they have a key (master key) for all the pepsi/ coke machines, or every single individual machine has a diferent key. At least one for coke, one for pepsi and oen for food vending machines right?
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by raimundo » 24 Aug 2005 12:59
pickdude, would you have a master key to money machines, you would have to really trust someone to let them keep it or even borrow it. it would be a huge security breach if it got out. Don't let that employee be disgruntled, not even his assistant, or they may copy it. there are more ways to copy a key than just taking it to the colenational booth in woolworths. 
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by Minion » 24 Aug 2005 17:17
raimundo wrote:there are more ways to copy a key than just taking it to the colenational booth in woolworths. 
[cough] clay [/cough]
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by Picking_dude » 24 Aug 2005 22:08
raimundo wrote:pickdude, would you have a master key to money machines, you would have to really trust someone to let them keep it or even borrow it. it would be a huge security breach if it got out. Don't let that employee be disgruntled, not even his assistant, or they may copy it. there are more ways to copy a key than just taking it to the colenational booth in woolworths. 
yeah, but what I mean is that if a person is going to cash out some machines, he must do like 40 or 60 in a day, thats 60 keys he has to carry and go trough to look for the key for that machine. Of course, is not like one key would open all the machines in the world, but at least for a certain area, like a zipcode or some route or something, or pherhaps a key for the machines of a certain company like "ACME vending" or something.
There's an all screwed up machine in a yunk yard near my house, and its all cripled, its going to be crushed for junk, to be melted and what not. I might be able to take the lock out to see it.
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by hzatorsk » 25 Aug 2005 6:56
I asked our vending guy just the other day how he managed the huge fistful of keys:
His answer... "You think I want to search through all these keys for every lock... They are on the keychain in the order of my route. "
...fwiw.
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by raimundo » 25 Aug 2005 11:07
you can probably easily remove the vending machine lock from behind the installation, requires getting the box open, try a sawzall, with the right blade, I saw a car cut in halfs with one recently, (its a demo that the hardware people do) I would just cut away the part of the machine that would have the strike plate, and leave the part with the lock alone, then you will be able to work on its backside without complication.
I watched the people who go around and empty parking meters here, it seems like they carry a lot of keys, but each key seems to fit a series of machines. probably changes every few blocks. medeoc cam locks apparently. 
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by TOWCH » 26 Aug 2005 2:23
I think those are called cyberlocks. Not a particularly creative name if you ask me. It's kinda neat because the maker is in my area. I haven't gotten around to checking out their office but I've been meaning to.
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by Picking_dude » 26 Aug 2005 9:28
Its and ABLOY lock, and it looks hard, many many false groves on the rotating "pins". the "top" pin fall by gravity, so that makes it harder and its not on top of the lock, but on the side, two locking pins in the entrance prevent misterius picking objects from turning the whole thing, and a center plate that rotates all the pins at the same time. I wouldn't even bother. I think I have more luck on a medeco. Taking it out was super easy. I opened the machine (it was opened) and I saw the bolt that the lock operates. It was held on a spring by a locking washer. I moved it out with a screwdriver and all came off. I'll be posting pictures here.
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