Could this even be picked?

by **pickeyless** » 17 Dec 2006 21:30

I was looking around on Eday for different locks and came upon this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HIGH-SECURITY-LOCK- ... dZViewItem

Could something like this even be picked by conventional methods? How would you even gain tension on something like this?

by **UWSDWF** » 17 Dec 2006 21:34

yes it can be picked.... all mechanical locks can be picked

by **pickeyless** » 17 Dec 2006 21:36

Could something like this even be picked by conventional methods?

by **UWSDWF** » 17 Dec 2006 21:38

all mechanical locks can be picked by conventional methods

by **pickeyless** » 17 Dec 2006 21:39

Actually I should ask, by conventional tools?

by **UWSDWF** » 17 Dec 2006 21:42

please define a conventional tool..... most tools used to pick locks would be considered unconventional to most

by **pickeyless** » 17 Dec 2006 21:49

Conventional = Something readily available

by **UWSDWF** » 17 Dec 2006 22:02

you could pick it with paperclips, mazzola and a duck-do

by **pickeyless** » 17 Dec 2006 22:14

Take that as "I don't know". :wink:

by **TOWCH** » 17 Dec 2006 22:44

It's a lever lock. They are generally picked with 2 wires, 2 in 1 picks, or a curtain pick if it has a curtain(this one does not appear to.) You make the wires from piano wire, and a 2 in 1 pick from brass tube as the sticky in the European locks forum instructs. Curtain picks are moderately difficult to make and most people buy them. Put this on your door and it's unlikely that it will be picked by anyone except a locksmith who does lever locks.

by **Romstar** » 18 Dec 2006 0:19

UWSDWF was being picky, again.

Towch is pretty much on the money. Most North American pickers can't pick a lever lock this complex.

In the UK, the tools to pick these locks are common enough, but you aren't going to pick that lock with a hook pick and a tension wrench.

Romstar

by **pickeyless** » 18 Dec 2006 0:58

Thanks for the info TOWCH and Romstar.

Just needed to ask. I was thinking that because the lock is mounted on the back of the door or 1 3/4'' from the key hole that manipulating tools would be extremely hard or not very likely.

by **Romstar** » 18 Dec 2006 2:15

Well, thats the thing about how lever lock picks work. The tube is designed to tension the bolt while the wire works the levers.

The tube also supports the wire so that it doesn't just flex all out of shape.
As you have noted, the distance is considerable enough that you would need a bit of support.

Romstar

by **greyman** » 18 Dec 2006 17:29

THere are some threads on this type of lock around - maybe search for lever lock or Mottura. Sorry I can't remember where I saw it. This type of Italian lever lock is very common in Europe and is definitely pickable. Most types have no anti-pick notches on the lever gates, but you need the right type of tools. There is a thread about russian locks of this sort also.

by **zeke79** » 18 Dec 2006 17:35

This lock appears that the bolt is tensioned in middle of the lever pack also so a 2 in 1 pick will not work. One will need to use a set of wires it appears.

Could this even be picked?

Could this even be picked?

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