Here is a challenging padlock abus 83/45

[gostone]

I have been having trouble with this new abus 83/45, with IC core. I opened it up, and it has 6 pins, 4 of which are spools, one serated, and only one regular pin. Also I found it suprising that it had different tension springs. Very challenging, I have not succeeded in opening it yet. The keyway is the 300 series, this is a 6 pin schlage core...... sc4 keyway

[raimundo]

the flat top on the plug makes me thing of kwickset

[conker]

Cool, that was enlightening. Thanks, nice lock too!

[jackbeef]

Nice lock, I think I will get one

[raimundo]

hey conker, that roof key looks like a kwickset

[Climber]

This is maybe a stupid question, but is this lock pickabel with a southord electro pick?

[gostone]

Yes, I would guess that your electropick would work fine. Not likely the spool pins would be a problem for you.

[grim]

I have been having trouble with this new abus 83/45, with IC core. I opened it up, and it has 6 pins, 4 of which are spools, one serated, and only one regular pin. Also I found it suprising that it had different tension springs. Very challenging, I have not succeeded in opening it yet. The keyway is the 300 series, this is a 6 pin schlage core...... sc4 keyway

it sounds like you got ahold of one that's been rekeyed at least once.

my shop sells a lot of these and when fresh from the factory, the springs are consistently the same. the driver pins are quite often spools and serrated, but lets save that for another post.

the number ("300" in this case) just tells what keyway is used.

[grim]

one other detail i forgot to mention about the 83/45 is that there's a spring-loaded pin at the back of the plug that prevents them from being tensioned in "reverse". if you try to apply tension in a counter-clockwise direction, you'll get nowhere. when picking, they HAVE to have tension applied in the clockwise direction.

[Jow]

I'm guessing you have already tried removing pins and working your way up from one or two to the full amount?

I find this is a good way to get a feel for a lock and the various pins in it.

Joe.

[Vennie]

I have many of these padlocks and I can tell that yours has been re-keyed. Normally these locks have only 5 pins - 4 spool, 1 normal pin (just like the rightmost pin in your picture with the two bands on top and bottom). They come with all very short pins (11111 or 00000) so that they can be re-keyed . They give you a key which is pretty much a key blank with very shallow cuts on it so you can open it and rekey it. (you can also open it by inserting the flat end of a pick and applying tension while moving it up or down to move all the pins to the shear line)

[linty]

that's not actually an IC format lock, it just has a similar shape. IC means there is a control key that you could use to remove the plug, it would have a second set of top pins.

[gostone]

that's not actually an IC format lock, it just has a similar shape. IC means there is a control key that you could use to remove the plug, it would have a second set of top pins.

Actually it is an IC core, it is not an SFIC core however. IC just stands for interchangeable core....................................

[nice7175]

Can it be shimmed?
Sorry if that's a dumb question, i'm new

[gostone]

Sorry, the lock really can't be shimmed.............you could try