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Abloy Protec Padlock (PL330N) cutaway

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Abloy Protec Padlock (PL330N) cutaway

Postby mh » 24 Feb 2008 17:40

I finally found some time to do another cutaway:

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An Abloy PL330N.
You can see the return bar in action, as well as the little notches that block the discs when tensioned via the Zero discs:

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I also cut the other side that shows the actual locking bar, but that's of course normal rotating disc tumbler stuff, nothing special...

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And I put a transparent disc in place of the bottom profile disc, so you can see the control pieces that block rotation of the plug while the key is not fully inserted.

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I guess I need a new signature now...

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Hope you enjoyed it.

Cheers,
mh
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 24 Feb 2008 18:09

Now thats sexy.. Now your going to make me get compulsive go out and buy a mill.

Actually hand my eye on one for a while, just need space.


Man MH that really is great :) I have a 330 padlock Never knew it potential till now.


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Postby mh » 25 Feb 2008 0:22

I think an end mill is indeed the nicest way (and the easiest) to cut this lock. But there are many ways to skin a cat...

If someone want's to try it without a milling machine, a hacksaw and a rotary tool (e.g. a Dremel) and a file will also work - like the ABUS Plus cutaway in my current signature.
Just leave enough material in place so that the upper and lower part still hold together properly, maybe cut both sides but at an angle, like this (view from the bottom):

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red = cut this away

Cheers,
mh
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Postby JackNco » 25 Feb 2008 4:48

thats a nice one!

I really wish I had the spare cash to get my self a mill/lathe....
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Postby Safety0ff » 25 Feb 2008 13:30

Wow, nice job on the cutaway! :shock: Pictures are also nice and sharp. :D
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Postby Tuniz » 25 Feb 2008 15:27

now that's a great cutaway!

are you able to actually rotate the discs and actually pick it?

guess you need a special tool for it though...
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Postby arris » 25 Feb 2008 15:45

woah that is awsome,

very very impressive, some skills you have,
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Postby mh » 25 Feb 2008 16:11

Thanks, I'm glad you like it :D
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Postby greyman » 26 Feb 2008 17:37

Well done mh. Those disc-blocking grooves are evil!
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Postby SnowyBoy » 5 Mar 2008 16:06

Lovely cutaway :)

Didn't realize the 330 came with the protec cylinder? always thought it was the 340. Learn something new every day :D

I've got 3 x 330 classic pads now....I pick them up on ebay for a tenner a time and as soon as the yare through the door the grub screw is drilled out so I can dismantle the cylinder.

I've marked mine up totally different to yours to be routed though.....Instead of a deep cut in like you did, mine skims about 3 - 4 mm from each side just enough so the locking bar can still work without falling out. Its a bit of a trial & error thing though, & i figured that cutting a bit at a time is better than going for the whole lot without knowing of any problems that may arise.

I've got 2 more here which will get the treatment in due time.....will definitely have one deep cut like yours now i've seen the result :D
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Postby mh » 6 Mar 2008 0:43

A single-sidebar rotating disc tumbler lock such as the Abloy Classic (*)would be somewhat comparable to my current signature lock - on the ABUS Plus I did one deep cut:
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BTW, there are some nice pictures all collected in this thread:
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Cheers,
mh

(*) I realize of the course that the Abloy Classic is THE single-sidebar rotating disc tumbler lock... :D
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Postby vision688 » 6 Mar 2008 21:37

nice cuteaway
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Postby guest5999 » 10 Mar 2008 21:13

sexy
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Postby Jaakko » 15 Mar 2008 11:37

mh, I have birthday on 30th of March, so you have 15 days to pack it, ship it, and still be alive ;) :D :P

Nice work man, very nice work! So did you use a mill or did you do milling on your lathe or did you just use Dremel on this one?
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Postby mh » 15 Mar 2008 13:31

a 10mm end mill in my mill (the one that sits next to the lathe), and if I had taken more time, the surface would be even nicer -
last week I saw a lot of the Protec cutaways Julian Hardt milled, those have near-perfect surfaces... The tool he developed together with a machining expert to hold the plug while cutting was also quite impressive...

Cheers,
mh
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