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Medeco padlock w/ CHUBB biaxial cylinder

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Postby ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 15:53

zeke79 wrote:Post a picture of the key, most specifically the tip. Both sides if possible. Post pictures of the key bow also.
I bought the locks without the keys.
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Postby zeke79 » 23 Jun 2006 16:21

I can't recall for sure without doing some research but I am thinking that chubb uses the bilevel system. It uses the biaxial system but also uses an offset pin at the key tip if I recall correctly.
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 16:41

zeke79 wrote:I can't recall for sure without doint some research but I am thinking that chubb uses the bilevel system. It uses the biaxial system but also uses an offset pin at the key tip if I recall correctly.
I guess they mention it in LSS, but I won't ask you to watch them all over again :)
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Postby maxxed » 24 Jun 2006 2:28

I don't think that the lock is bi axial. The Chubb cylinders in my collection that are biaxial have the logo. It is still a Medico and I don't believe that a biaxial would be more difficult, so have fun with it
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 24 Jun 2006 10:17

maxxed wrote:I don't think that the lock is bi axial. The Chubb cylinders in my collection that are biaxial have the logo. It is still a Medico and I don't believe that a biaxial would be more difficult, so have fun with it
You better believe it :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 24 Jun 2006 11:47

Theres also the Chubb M3 cylinders which are simular to the Medecos.
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Postby Octillion » 24 Jun 2006 12:25

ThE_MasteR wrote:
maxxed wrote:I don't think that the lock is bi axial. The Chubb cylinders in my collection that are biaxial have the logo. It is still a Medico and I don't believe that a biaxial would be more difficult, so have fun with it
You better believe it :lol:


I haven't been picking Medeco for too long, but so far I would agree with maxxed. Without going into any details, for me the hardest part is rotating the pins once I've felt that the sidebar is in a false gate. Biaxial or non-biaxial pins are no harder than the other to determine when they are falsely set, and they are both equally difficult to rotate (maybe I will find one is easier to rotate with more practice, but right now, no). In all other aspects of picking them, there is no difference.
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Postby maxxed » 24 Jun 2006 14:43

Shrub wrote:Theres also the Chubb M3 cylinders which are simular to the Medecos.


In Canada Chubb is now called Gunnebo is it the same in the UK ?
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Postby Shrub » 24 Jun 2006 17:48

:o I dont think so perhaps ive just not heard about it yet but no i dont think so.
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Postby skold » 24 Jun 2006 19:03

Shrub wrote:Theres also the Chubb M3 cylinders which are simular to the Medecos.


Which happen to be the same thing as Medeco M3 :P

Chubb also make the bi-axial and pretty much anything medeco does i think.
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Postby maxxed » 24 Jun 2006 19:25

skold wrote:
Shrub wrote:Theres also the Chubb M3 cylinders which are simular to the Medecos.


Which happen to be the same thing as Medeco M3 :P

Chubb also make the bi-axial and pretty much anything medeco does i think.


Medico,I'm sure makes the locks for Chubb, putting Chubbs name on the lock and keys
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Postby Shrub » 24 Jun 2006 19:42

Well the Chubb (who incidentally are owned by the assa abloy group) website say,

"A worldwide utility patent protects both key and mechanism until 2021"

So i think that Medeco actually owns the Biaxial patent so the M3 must be made under license by Chubb with Medeco actually owning the license.
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Postby maxxed » 25 Jun 2006 0:01

Shrub wrote:Well the Chubb (who incidentally are owned by the assa abloy group) website say,

"A worldwide utility patent protects both key and mechanism until 2021"

So i think that Medeco actually owns the Biaxial patent so the M3 must be made under license by Chubb with Medeco actually owning the license.


Medico makes many different keyways in the biaxial and any company willing to pay for custom logo on the keys can get it, there are two local companies that have done so. I believe that Medico is doing all the manufacturing of the M3 and logoing the product to the customers prefence
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Chubb Keyway

Postby Polkaroo » 30 Jul 2006 22:29

The keyway shown in the picture above is a Medeco Original keyway '03'. I believe that chubb has exclusivity on this keyway and is available at all chubb locksmiths. Chubb also has a biaxial keyway 'P4'.
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Re: Medeco padlock w/ CHUBB biaxial cylinder

Postby lupstarr » 8 Sep 2009 20:11

so exsactly what kind off lock is it?i have this same lock and im not sure what it is yet.is there a sidebar?how would you go about picking such a lock?i also have no key the lock was givin to me because of that.
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