Guard Lock! Pick Resistant....

[Shrub]

Rusted locks - Loads of WD-40 and a manual pickgun to loosen the pins, works 99% of the time for me and the only reaosn i use a pick gun

[LockNewbie21]

I just like flicking pins and people with it on high tension


I can only imagine what will be said based on what i just said.






Andy

[Shrub]

Dont flick people you dont own

[Kaotik]

Dont flick people you dont own

<------Kaotik laughing till he fell out of his chair.

[n2oah]

Dont flick people you dont own

Then why do you flick illusion's mum?

[Shrub]

Then why do you flick illusion's mum?

Because i got bored with yours

[LockNewbie21]

I flick myself on high tension in my cornea when i feel the need to punish mself for an unsuccessful pick.. it may cause blindness and and inability to ype onndd yeeerr kompotter.


Andy

[Bud Wiser]

This was the first lock I bought to practice on. Before even reading any thing about it. I was moderately difficult for me as a complete noob, but was able to pick it with a largest tension wrench that came with my southord kit and small hook pick. It was a moral booster for me in between my schlage attempt. Then one day I could no longer pick it! I spend a couple of days trying! Then decided to try the key (dah), only to find the key could no longer open it too! Any one know what the dollar general return policy is like

[Kaotik]

This was the first lock I bought to practice on. Before even reading any thing about it. I was moderately difficult for me as a complete noob, but was able to pick it with a largest tension wrench that came with my southord kit and small hook pick. It was a moral booster for me in between my schlage attempt. Then one day I could no longer pick it! I spend a couple of days trying! Then decided to try the key (dah), only to find the key could no longer open it too! Any one know what the dollar general return policy is like

Can't say that I do know what the return policy circumstances are. You could always give them a call and find out, just tell them what item you are inquiring about and they should be able to help you.

Now how you explain your situation with this item is completely up to you, however giving them a call beats wasting the gas to go there and find out they will not accept a return/refund.

My opinion is that if this happened to me, I would just keep the lock and dismantel it, make a breakdown or some sort of cutaway out of it, mine only cost me $2-3 dollars so it wouldn't be to much of a loss.

[Bud Wiser]

yea, I was only kidding about the return. thx

[Ray_Air]

The brass body Guard Security padlocks have 6-pin cylinders which are more difficult to open, especially when it comes to vibration type manipulation. Now, on another note, the beefier looking chrome bodied Guard padlocks have 5 pin cylinders and can be opened with jiggler keys fairly easily! The chrome plated Guard padlocks look like some Master lock contractor grade padlocks. They have the word hardened stamped on the lock body. From appearances they look tough, but the pin tumbler mechanism is weak and the shackles are non-alloy and just as weak as most Master padlocks.

[Bud Wiser]

The brass body Guard Security padlocks have 6-pin cylinders which are more difficult to open, especially when it comes to vibration type manipulation. Now, on another note, the beefier looking chrome bodied Guard padlocks have 5 pin cylinders and can be opened with jiggler keys fairly easily! The chrome plated Guard padlocks look like some Master lock contractor grade padlocks. They have the word hardened stamped on the lock body. From appearances they look tough, but the pin tumbler mechanism is weak and the shackles are non-alloy and just as weak as most Master padlocks.

What is the model number or name of the brass Guard? I've only ever seen the cheaper Guards that are just too easy to pick. The Guards I've tried made the master #3 look like a high end security lock

Is the brass model worth searching for?

Thx

[Ray_Air]

They dont put the model numbers on the locks, but the brass Guard's I have are 2.5" wide, 7/16" double locking shackle, 6-pin keyway and a 2 1/4" wide, 3/8" double locking shackle and 6 pin keyway. They are more difficult to manipulate than the heavier looking chrome Guard's which have a 5-pin keyway that I can open with jiggler keys even! I have never bought any laminated Guard's, but they would seem to be similar to Master 4-pins. Guard's can be picked up around here at most Big Lot's stores.

[Bojak]

Baught a Guard brand lock (40mm) at the local Family Dollar the other day because the package said Pick Resistant on the front, it was only $2 (US) so it was worth the temptation...

By no means was it Pick Resistant, however all the tension wrenches i had would not fit and rotated 360 degrees in the keyway and i'm not one to put the tension wrench near the first pin. As most know a Penclip can be used but sometimes needs trimming, not in this case so i left it as wide as it was but only bent it to a 90 degree angle.

I got the same one a few days ago and picked it my first try. I wrote the company about it and have not gotten a responce since, lol. Then I ripped it appart with an air chisel. I found out that the cylinder casing is made of plastic so even if you coudnt pick it you can just get a heavy duty tension wrench and rip the pins through the soft plastic to turn it. Not very good security if you ask me.

[Kaotik]

Baught a Guard brand lock (40mm) at the local Family Dollar the other day because the package said Pick Resistant on the front, it was only $2 (US) so it was worth the temptation...

By no means was it Pick Resistant, however all the tension wrenches i had would not fit and rotated 360 degrees in the keyway and i'm not one to put the tension wrench near the first pin. As most know a Penclip can be used but sometimes needs trimming, not in this case so i left it as wide as it was but only bent it to a 90 degree angle.

I got the same one a few days ago and picked it my first try. I wrote the company about it and have not gotten a responce since, lol. Then I ripped it appart with an air chisel. I found out that the cylinder casing is made of plastic so even if you coudnt pick it you can just get a heavy duty tension wrench and rip the pins through the soft plastic to turn it. Not very good security if you ask me.

Not very good security indeed, hence the price of the lock I can understand that the internals would be made of cheap materials. I must say I didn't think it would have been made with plastic though...LoL.

Concerning the DE (Destructive Entry), I do agree it would require a hefty/strong tensor such as the Peterson Pry Bar, or even a small or medium sized screw driver. I don't participate in DE, so this is all I will contribute. Very good info to know though, I wouldn't have known if someone here didn't disassemble it.