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by **master in training** » 16 Mar 2005 14:36

never heard of that, not a bad idea though... i have an idea for one now

by **mikash52** » 16 Mar 2005 14:50

yeah it looked prety tough and had a type of lock that was totaly pick-proof, wish i could remeber the name of it or type of lock they discussed

by **master in training** » 16 Mar 2005 15:05

it may have eben pick proof then, but by now it probably wont be, it only takes a matter of days before someone brings out a pick for it.

by **mikash52** » 16 Mar 2005 15:17

i just remeber that the key was like a flat kinda oval shaped peice of metal that had a few bumps on it kinda like it was brail or the sort. memory's fuzzy and i am no good at describing things but it was someting i hadnt seen before or seen since. although i know your right and it most likely has a pick for it

by **master in training** » 16 Mar 2005 15:35

did it look like this?

if so it is a dimple lock & key.

by **mikash52** » 16 Mar 2005 15:41

yeah it did, well so now i know. are those locks any good?

by **master in training** » 16 Mar 2005 15:45

well i've got to go out really quickly, but i dont know how to pick them. search for dimple locks on the search and that came from a good looking site, search for dimple keys or dimple locks on google image search and click the picture.

by **feend** » 16 Mar 2005 20:55

Romstar wrote:Garbage, absolute garbage.

Not only that, but you can bypass the silly things.

Romstar

Right! The club can be bypassed with any flat piece of metal. (File folder clasp ect...) It has no security value at all. It may scare off an ignorant wanbe joy rider looking for a mark but a thief won't even break stride. People need to know this stuff becuse the industry won't improve w/ out the truth being known. end rant... :wink:

by **digital_blue** » 16 Mar 2005 20:59

master in training wrote:did it look like this?

[img ]See above for dimple lock.[ /img]

if so it is a dimple lock & key.

If I'm not mistaken, this looks like a dimple lock with telescopic pins. I think this would make for a heck of a time picking. I've never tried, and I'd love to, but I suspect this would make for a sufficient challenge to keep y ou busy for quite a while.

db

by **Peaky** » 17 Mar 2005 7:54

Im picking a Kaba Gemmini at the moment when i get a spare 5 mins, its great fun, all those pins and little space to get a pick in,

Before ye all start i know dimple locks are easy to impression and have already done that, this time it needs to be picked manually,

by **master in training** » 17 Mar 2005 11:38

yeah, from the (very) brief glance at the locks on the site, it looks as if the pins are telescopic. looks like a very difficult lock to pick, i think these are what my local leisure centre use on their lockers, i havent been there in about 10-12 years though so im not sure!

the address of the site is http://www.chez.com/montmartre/keso2000.html if anyone is interested.

by **digital_blue** » 17 Mar 2005 19:27

You haven't been there since you were 3?

db

by **master in training** » 17 Mar 2005 20:00

im 17 db, so it'd be about 5 or 7 when i was last there, about right really because thats when my parents were divorced and im petty sure i havent been since they were.

by **Mad Mick** » 17 Mar 2005 21:19

Coming from the north of the UK, the only real testament towards vehicle security that I can give, is:
MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAR IS MORE SECURE THAN YOUR NEIGHBOUR'S!!

If this entails only fitting a flashing LED (where you do not actually have an alarm... and your neighbour does not also) whose vehicle is going to 'disappear' first?

Unless an auto-thief is looking for a particular type of vehicle (such as a high-end/high value vehicle - where he's more likely to have the equipment required to circumvent the security system, or have a matched set of ECU's and the time to set them up) he's going to look at a particular vehicle and weigh up his odds of getting caught. A vehicle with a flashing light on the dash is more likely to have some sort of alarm, than a vehicle that has no light. If I can make my vehicle seem more secure than my good friend and neighbour, then so be it. It's unfortunate, but I'd prefer a thief to take my neighbour's vehicle than to take mine!!

When we have such schemes as 'neighbourhood watch' and the like, there is a collective approach towards tackling these vermin, providing the public is aware and watching. The problem is that once we are cocooned in our own little nests, the 'cockroaches' come out to play. How many times have you heard an alarm going off and just convinced yourself that it's a Harry Moss DIY kit that's gone haywire? And at 3AM...

We've become conditioned to the fact that crap/faulty security systems are the norm, but suppose an intrusion is real...what can we do about it? The answer is...Nothing! The laws these days are in the favour of the criminals. So, do we stand back and let these pieces of trash intrude on our belongings, and smile whilst they are in the process of robbing us, or look over the aftermath of what we find and just accept it?

I will tell the judge that I was exercisizing my right to protect my person and property during the break-in, and the defendant fell down on numerous occasions, should he be caught before getting to the hospital!

Mad.

by **Mad Mick** » 17 Mar 2005 21:25

exercisizing...

:oops:

Sounds like some form of operation.....

Should read: exercising!

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