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How to take cylinder lock apart?

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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby TigerDragon » 7 Feb 2009 12:59

lunchb0x wrote:With using a normal plug follower you would only be able to key up one side of the lock becuase when you try to key the other side you wont be able to remove the plug follower because the plug on the other side of the lock will be in the way.


Good point. I didn't pay enough attention. I saw the one plug, set of pins / springs, and key, and forgot the other plug was still in the lock. :oops:
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby lunchb0x » 7 Feb 2009 13:09

I was thinking the same as you did till I started writting out how he could do it, then I realized it wouldn't work, though if he cant make/ buy the proper plug follower I guess the lock could always be cut in half, that would make it a lot easier to re key the lock to practice with.
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby atikin » 7 Feb 2009 13:47

It's a good idea to use something like that tool to hold a top pins with the springs in their ways. I can't use any of plug followers, because I have a two sided lock, like you can see in my photos. If I put the follower in the plug I can't get into the inside of the lock at all. Don't forget, I have a place to operate only from the one side.
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Feb 2009 14:29

atikin wrote:It's a good idea to use something like that tool to hold a top pins with the springs in their ways. I can't use any of plug followers, because I have a two sided lock, like you can see in my photos. If I put the follower in the plug I can't get into the inside of the lock at all. Don't forget, I have a place to operate only from the one side.


Hello friend,

This paperclip tool should help you:
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Here is the article with instructions:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5199&start=0


Good Luck,

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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby atikin » 7 Feb 2009 16:51

Thank you. I don't know if it's possible to find tools like that in Israel, so I'm going to make it by myself. I'll need to buy a paper clips, like lunchb0x showed and try to make pin holding tool.
I took my lock back together with just one first pin, for practicing, but got some problems. I inserted the plug, fixed it with a C-clip... all went right till I moved the plug to the locked position. Now it just doesn't move. When I pick it, it moves some degrees and stops. If I'm trying to move the second plug with all the pins using the key it doesn't move, too. So I decided to pick the first plug and move the second, while the first one is picked. It worked. Both plugs moved together. I decided to take that one-pinned plug out, but broke the C-clip trying to bend it and take off from the lock. In the end I took out the plug, pins, spring and that-strange-thing, that shoud connect plug with that black turning part (I don't know its name). How do you think, what went wrong? Why did the plugs turn together? I think, that I used that-strange-thing wrong. It's hard to me to explane what I mean because of two reasons - firstly, I don't know the names of all those parts and secondly, I just studying English. But you can see that-strange-thing on this photo:
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It is a little bit left and bottom from the C-clip. I think I used it wrong way. I just saw a two small holes in the end of the plug with springs inside. That-strange-thing fited in there so I supposed it is right. I thing this part is single in the lock and there is no another strange-thing for the second plug. But it suppose to be! Where was I wrong? :?
PS. I'll take some new photos tomorrow.
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby atikin » 7 Feb 2009 16:53

Sorry. The-strange-thing is a little bit RIGHT and bottom of the C-clip.
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby SnowyBoy » 15 Feb 2009 6:21

When I re-assemble these types of locks I just punch the caps through the pin channels, insert the slug, load the pins & springs and drive the caps back in.
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby atikin » 16 Feb 2009 6:50

But how do you punch the caps out?
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby femurat » 16 Feb 2009 9:49

Thanks Squelchtone, this is a lot easier to build than the other one. Useful tool! Cheers :)
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby MacGnG1 » 16 Feb 2009 18:38

lunchb0x: is there any way to make one of those? and if u can buy it what's it called? thanks :)
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Re: How to take cylinder lock apart?

Postby lunchb0x » 16 Feb 2009 20:30

I bought mine is Australia so if you want to order form there I can find of a part number for you, other wise I haev made one before using a milling machine, to get you measurements you will be best of using a lock to get them from, when I made mine ( not the one in the picture) I also had a screw on each side to hold the cylinder in place.
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