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by LocksmithArmy » 5 Jul 2009 5:38
i have never messed with a euro lock before...
hit it with a hammer... hard
simple solution to a complex problem...
i dont think its these guys telling you wrong... id bet its just broken, if the manufacturer gives you great insight please let us all know cause im sittin(layin) on the edge(middle) of my seat(bed) for the results... this knowledge may come in handy 1 of these days
thanks
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by verfeil » 5 Jul 2009 5:49
I tried the hammer approach already, from the exterior. It's a steel interior to that door. Forcing the steel barrel against the steel door will get nowhere. Technique will get everywhere; at a price.
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by LocksmithArmy » 5 Jul 2009 5:54
i was just kidding about the hammer as i figured ud do that b4 ud ask us... i would...
i just wanted to say dont sell these guys short if they dont have the answer and please when you do find the answer let us know so we will have it for the next poor soal to be stuck in your situation...
like i said i know nothing about euro locks but i am very curious to c this thru...
ill bet its somthing so simple... like add water(exageration)
have fun
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by verfeil » 5 Jul 2009 6:05
I will return to this forum with the technique, when it arrives  . It is the result that matters, not the path taken to get that result. 
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by LocksmithArmy » 5 Jul 2009 6:11
verry zen...
goodluck and thank you...
and always, have fun
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by verfeil » 6 Jul 2009 3:31
The technique is this: Today, I paid 460 Euros (yes, four-sixty) to a professional locksmith with experience of this type of door. Not quite sure what he did, though.
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by SnowyBoy » 6 Jul 2009 8:49
verfeil wrote:The technique is this: Today, I paid 460 Euros (yes, four-sixty) to a professional locksmith with experience of this type of door. Not quite sure what he did, though.
You're off your head if you paid 460 euros for any type of locksmith work! Got ripped right off there mate!
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!
I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
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by verfeil » 6 Jul 2009 10:43
It depends upon how we perceive success. It is the result that matters, not the path taken to get that result.
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by SnowyBoy » 6 Jul 2009 10:47
verfeil wrote:It depends upon how we perceive success. It is the result that matters, not the path taken to get that result.
Yeah, but there's being priced fairly, and being down right ripped off. 460 Euros to get a lock out a door is rediculous  Someone back me up please  That's like $640 USD or £395 GBP 
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!
I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
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by LocksmithArmy » 6 Jul 2009 16:09
Where I live in the states it would have been cheaper to replace the door. But if you are satisfied(or have an expensive door) and have the money to blow I do not see a problem with it.
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by LocksmithArmy » 6 Jul 2009 16:11
My bad you did say it was an Italian security door. I do not know how expensive they are but $640 is alot for the lock. I suppose satisfaction is the most important part.
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by straightpick » 6 Jul 2009 21:25
Is there an access hole in the door edge for a long allen wrench to reach the screw? Somewhere between the third and fourth bolt?
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by mh » 6 Jul 2009 23:33
I guess that price included the new lock, what type of lock did you get?
If you were in France, I heard getting the top of the line FICHET locks indeed has this price tag...
Cheers mh
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by Squelchtone » 6 Jul 2009 23:52
verfeil wrote:The technique is this: Today, I paid 460 Euros (yes, four-sixty) to a professional locksmith with experience of this type of door. Not quite sure what he did, though.
you paid that much and didn't watch him up close or ask him after the job to show you what he did? did you get to keep the old lock? is it more obvious now how it was attached inside? thanks Squelchtone
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by SnowyBoy » 7 Jul 2009 5:23
mh wrote:I guess that price included the new lock, what type of lock did you get?
If you were in France, I heard getting the top of the line FICHET locks indeed has this price tag...
Cheers mh
Some of the Vachette locks carry a hefty price tag too. But still, I've seen new Fichet units go for less than 150 EUR.
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!
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