Ultimate Lock

[mitch.capper]

Sorry, if you want to reinforce your door go that route, Jamb Armor does amazing work for $100. I would rather have a lock that is as secure when I am at home as when I am not, for the total price of the ultimate lock you could use Jamb Armor and a High security lock (or even the kwikset smartkey and save some cash) and be more secure.

[thelockpickkid]

I agree! You want something strong, why would you get an ultimate lock, you have other things to worry about such as kick in's and glass windows. Besides, here in the U.S. how many people have a glass door for there back door??? LOTS. Whats the Ultimate Lock to do about that. Nothing.

[globallockytoo]

Sorry, if you want to reinforce your door go that route, Jamb Armor does amazing work for $100. I would rather have a lock that is as secure when I am at home as when I am not, for the total price of the ultimate lock you could use Jamb Armor and a High security lock (or even the kwikset smartkey and save some cash) and be more secure.

Sorry for going OT, but what is the benefit of the DJA over other products?
I know it has multiple protection points, but installing a steel corner piece and a steel wrap-around box and hinge protectors etc, seems a lot of over kill when most front or back doors are already encased in steel.

Aside from the obvious, it is somewhat of a pain to have to remove the door to install all that hardware.

At least the original Strikemaster II concept doesnt require any of the messing around and achieves fundamentally the same thing of preventing kick-ins. And SM2 was there first.....these other products think they are an improvement when they mostly unnecessary overkill.

[lockinabox]

Sorry, if you want to reinforce your door go that route, Jamb Armor does amazing work for $100. I would rather have a lock that is as secure when I am at home as when I am not, for the total price of the ultimate lock you could use Jamb Armor and a High security lock (or even the kwikset smartkey and save some cash) and be more secure.

Sorry for going OT, but what is the benefit of the DJA over other products?
I know it has multiple protection points, but installing a steel corner piece and a steel wrap-around box and hinge protectors etc, seems a lot of over kill when most front or back doors are already encased in steel.

Aside from the obvious, it is somewhat of a pain to have to remove the door to install all that hardware.

At least the original Strikemaster II concept doesnt require any of the messing around and achieves fundamentally the same thing of preventing kick-ins. And SM2 was there first.....these other products think they are an improvement when they mostly unnecessary overkill.

You don't have to remove the door to install any of the three components. They are both about the same price and the three components of the DJA compared to one for the Strikemaster is the main difference. With security, generally speaking, more is usually better.

[globallockytoo]

Doesnt the DJA have steel plates that install to the exterior of the door in the corners? What about the wraparound plate, you still need to remove the hardware.

With the current thickness of most existing front doors, adding the extra steel plates will make the edge of the door wider (fatter). This means that you probably also need to replace the weather stripping and that the door will be a wider fit into the frame.

With SM2, there is none of that, just a jamb reinforcer. No need to resecure something that is already secure. I agree with you that more is better in security, but if a steel cased door is already fairly secure, it is fundamental to reinforce the jamb.

Many door companies are already aware of this. Often when they sell complete new doors and frames, they include an internally fitted steel stud to the jamb, before putting the fancy archetrave over the top. That steel stud is made by a company in KC, I think. Cant remember the name at the mo.