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by Klaiviel » 10 Jul 2010 0:30
I live in a 2nd floor apartment. I have an Abloy Protec Single Cylinder Deadbolt on the front door and in case anyone sees that and decides to try the other door (2nd floor balcony) they will be sorely disappointed  I have a modified a Schlage B60 on that door with the tailpiece removed from the cylinder so that the thumb turn works on the inside but the key does not work on the outside (why would anyone need to unlock a balcony door from the outside anyway?). Needless to say if anyone bothered to try and pick it they would be sorely disappointed.  On top of the locks all windows have security film and the doors are reinforced with StrikeMaster II's. And if all that fails my backup plan is a Browning BPS Stalker 12 GA Shotgun which I have an unlocked Pro-Lok Gunlok lock on. I leave it unlocked because the lock can not be removed without knowing a certain "trick" even when in an unlocked state (google it) which is good enough to keep the curious from messing with my shotgun but not so locked down that I can't have it off in about 5 seconds. That's about it.
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by Scott_93 » 10 Jul 2010 18:34
2 x Yale 6-pin euro (Keyed differently) on as many uPVC doors 1 x Unbranded 6-pin Euro on uPVC door Soon to be replaced with Cisa Astreal S though ClickyScott.
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by mtcrowe » 12 Jul 2010 5:00
LSDA cylindical knobs and deabolts, though i'm giving serious consideration to replacing my front door deadbolt with a Simplex.
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by alexdwsn12 » 24 Jul 2010 4:35
I use Schlage locks and Schlage door hardware. They have set the standard for excellence, durability, and performance. I use L9000-Series and its key has two nickel silver cut keys per lock, 6-pin, C123 section Standard. There is no problem at all.
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by Engineer » 29 Jul 2010 16:14
Very, very boring ones...Seriously, here anything too ostentatious would attract unwanted attention. I do however follow the common practice in the UK of having two locks on your door. One is a cylinder and the other is a 5 lever lock. All the break-ins I hear about are brute-force entry, so attracting attention is not a good idea. Not only that, but this area has some pretty wonderful neighbors. We all look out for each other and that includes security. You want the ultimate in high-security? Buy some geese! Highly-territorial, will stay there, don't eat drugged food very easily, suprisingly strong and attack you in the most vulnerable places... 
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by Scope » 29 Jul 2010 19:14
Sounds like the goats they use in the middle east.... We have a upvc door with 7 point locking system, both front and back doors, but i've had to break in a few times because keys have been lost (and then found)  , easy if you know a weak point on your property. Don't worry i used a non-destructive method. Shall not give any more away 
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by misterj » 5 Aug 2010 11:59
alexdwsn12 wrote:I use Schlage locks and Schlage door hardware. They have set the standard for excellence, durability, and performance. I use L9000-Series and its key has two nickel silver cut keys per lock, 6-pin, C123 section Standard. There is no problem at all.
There's two for Everest...I have C145 6-Pins in Schlage hardware on my doors. I like the fact that the key has a huge oversize bow--makes it easy to find on the ring at night.
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by lockinabox » 5 Aug 2010 17:38
I don't use any locks. I'm very trusting and I don't believe anyone would come into my home without asking.
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by zeke79 » 5 Aug 2010 22:45
Abloy protec in grade 2 KIK with abloy protec deadbolts on all doors. Reinforced wraps go on the door before the lock sets so I am not left with only 3/16" of metal and wood to hold the latches in place. Door jambs are reinforced using the abloy deadbolt hardware and countersunk far enough to allow an extended strike plate (I think they are 9" long) over that. Hinges are also reinforced. The doors do have windows and since I have childrend I wanted singled sided deadbolts in case of fire so no one is looking for a key to get out of the house. To prevent glass breakage all doors are protected with ace security laminate that if needed I can shoot through from the inside but will stop handgun bullets coming from the outside up to a 357 magnum. Windows are protected with security laminates also. The laminate was the more expensive than the locks but I feel safe when I have to leave home with the family there alone. We are in a rural area so a 911 response time would be a good 15 to 20 minute wait likely.
My detatched shop with all of my locksmith tools is set up in the same manner but with a cheaper grade of security laminate but it will still severely slow down attacks on the glass for quite some time, atleast long enough for me to confront whoever is out there with my benelli M1 entry or if in a hurry a tripple tap from my browning hi power 9mm (always train with the 9mm for a tripple tap, 2 center mass then 1 head shot hence tripple tap). The reason for 9mm is the wife can control it just as well as I can and is almost as fast with it as I am. She doesn't handle the kimber 1911 45 as well and it's only 7 rounds in the mag unless you stock one in the tube.
Now that I have come across as nuts, your view on home security changes quickly when you come home for a lunch break and find someone in your home. Fortunately whoever it was did not want a confrontation and was out the back door shortly after I was in the front door. This occurred in our previous residence which had just standard schlage grade 3 hardware kik and deadbolt with standard 5 pin C keyway. I am not sure how they got in there as the doors were locked and didn't appear to be tampered with and picking is not a common tactic used by burglars according to statistics. The few things that were missing didn't mean that much and were not very valuable as all jewelry not worn and guns are stored in a quality gun safe except for the browning which is stored bolted to the nightstand with a pushbutton combo and the benelli is hidden where it would take some hard looking to find but it still very easy to access. So they got away with some old hydrocodone that I had left over from a shoulder surgery (which was probably no good anyhow as it was like two years expired lol) a bunch of dvd's, and oddly enough just my ping blondie 5 wood. Not the entire set of 1, 3, and 5 wood but just the 5 wood. The worst loss was how unsafe my wife felt after it happened and I have to admit it bothered me a bit too.
So as a long answer that is how my house is set up. The only other description I can give is the house is keyed to a master key, that attached garaged can be entered with the change key but the change key will not open the door from inside the garage to the house. The change key will also open the detatched shop and two car garage. The only double sided deadbolt I use is on the door the seperates my shop from the two car garage portion with a schlage cobra pushbutton lock with abloy cylinder in case someone needs into the shop but I don't want them to access the attached garage. In these cases I will give them the pushbutton code for the garage door opener and the pushbutton code for the cobra lock. There are also a couple of protec 330 padlocks keyed to open with the change key or master used here and there. Of course the master will open all of these locks. I set things up this way so friends or someone who may need into the shop can get where they need to go without having access to the home. Things are "zoned" very well for my needs.
Believe it or not, none of what I have done gets me any sort of insurance discount on our homeowners insurance. The only discount I get is for having a deadbolt installed. It does not matter whether it is UL437 listed or not. Same discount for a kwikset as for an abloy. We do not have an alarm system for a couple of reasons. Number 1 is to get a good alarm system from ADT or the likes is expensive despite their advertisements. The basic models they advertise are useless if you ask me. Second is the fact that we do not use or have a home phone which sounds like a poor excuse but after I got injured and have been off work another monthly bill for phone service is out of the question. I could of course set the alarm system up with a cellular dialer but number 1 they are expensive and number two cellular service where we live can be hit or miss every once in a while. Of course if I were to setup an alarm system it would have a cellular dialer for backup. Once I get back to work and back on my feet an alarm system would be another security layer I would like to have but right now it's just out of the question. I of course think an alarm system is definately worth the investment not only for the obvious reasons but I would like to have it for the fire monitoring service and the emergency button.
Again, it may seem like overkill but once you experience the feeling you get when you know the privacy of your home has been breached you may tend to understand how easily one can go overboard. It's a bad feeling when your home which is your sactuary where you and your family have grown so accustomed to feeling safe in looses that comfortable feeling. Add to that the fact that we now have two children the last thing I want to allow to happen is for someone to gain access while we are home sleeping looking for god knows what or has even worse intentions nor would I want my wife and children to walk in while someone was in our home as you never know what someone is capable of doing to get away.
A bit more of an answer to the topic in question but that just about covers it for me. And just in case you are wondering, no there are no stockpiles of food and bookshelves full of survival book with a ten foot barbed wire electric fence around my house. Though there is a guy in town here who seems even a bit extreme to me as he does have a ten foot chain link fence with properly installed barbed wire surrounded the entire property. He is a survivalist and I know for fact that he has boxes and boxes of complete lower receivers with butt stocks and bins of complete upper receivers so by simply putting the two pieces together and popping two pins in he has a complete ar15. I only know this as I was introduced to him by a fellow gun collector whom this man knew well and since my friend gun collector said I was an ok guy to see SOME of his stuff. This was in what I would call a hardened garage attached to the home. The survivalist is an older man whose father was the same way and was smart enough to buy surplus colt 1911 pistols after ww2 so there are literally 1911's in there still packed in cosmoline numbering in the hundreds I would say. There was box after box of all of this stuff along with barrel after barrel of drinking water, an RO water purification system which drew from a water well drilled on a fresh water spring that is on his property. He also had some funky seperate water filtration system setup secondary on his RO (reverse osmosis) filtration system that by shutting a bypass the water is treated with UV light if I remember right to kill parasites if needed. It is quite the place. At the time I was there I was not into locks or security so I have no idea what kind of locks are installed there or if there was an alarm system but when you have enough ar15s to arm your own large military and issue them side arms with 55gal cardboard like drums full of 5.56 nato and the same for 45 acp I don't know that an alarm system is needed.
It's a bit different here in the actual rural areas of America than it is when you get close to a bigger city. It's even alot different when you get towards a smaller (big city) such as Indianapolis In.
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by tjweaver84 » 6 Aug 2010 9:30
I have the original kwikset knob and deadbolt. I figure why replace them i someone is going to break in they are probably going through one of the windows or kick in the door.
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by pin_pusher » 6 Aug 2010 18:16
i gots me some quicksets, locks on the windows that don't seem to properly work--had to shim them shut with makeshift props. a dexter lock that no one has the key to, and not work figuring out, because i rent. the only thing that always seems to bother me is that we have keyed entry, and no deadbolt on the inside, just keys to get in and out!!! a total fire hazard!! but i sleep well at night, because ninjas always have their throwing stars in the secret compartments on their headboards. kiddin' 
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