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Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby GWiens2001 » 9 Apr 2015 23:06

If it would not cost a fortune in shipping costs to get it here from Oz, would try working a deal with you, and it would be up to me to figure it out. Unless a trade is in order...

If so, PM me. But either way, good luck with it.

If you see the picture I posted up above, that was as it was removed from a lock. The grease had vitrified (hardened). That may be what is happening with yours.

Would avoid part of Squelchtone's advice. Dropping it on the floor may cause the key to break off in the lock. But smacking Comrade627 AND the padlock a few times with the mallet may be a good idea. :mrgreen:

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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Mitchell S » 9 Apr 2015 23:18

Squelchtone wrote:
Comrade627 wrote:
Mitchell S wrote:Yeah the blasting with lines and solvents is my current plan. Might throw it in a petrol bath for a few days.

Or mail it to Squelchtone and get him to fix it for me :)


Yea you could always send it to him simply to stress him out. Surely he would reply with something like

"Well I fixed the lock and I'm sending it back, now let's get back on topic,

Thanks,
Squelchtone"

heh.


I recommend smacking Comrade627 AND the padlock a few times with the mallet like VancouverSpecial71 suggested. or even just drop it on the floor onto the body. Maybe I missed it but does the key turn and unlock it at all? Did it come that way with the key already inserted into the lock or did you insert the key?

Without breaking the key off, can you grab it with some pliers and rock it back and fourth to lock / unlock the cylinder using the pliers for added leverage?
Squelchtone


You probably missed the part where I was just going to send it to you to fix too! :)

To answer your questions the key came inserted and stuck. It doesn't turn or have even the slightest give. It is rock solid. As the key is brass I was worried about breaking they key off in the lock if I used pliers. Then it really would be game over.
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Mitchell S » 9 Apr 2015 23:24

GWiens2001 wrote:If it would not cost a fortune in shipping costs to get it here from Oz, would try working a deal with you, and it would be up to me to figure it out. Unless a trade is in order...

If so, PM me. But either way, good luck with it.

If you see the picture I posted up above, that was as it was removed from a lock. The grease had vitrified (hardened). That may be what is happening with yours.

Would avoid part of Squelchtone's advice. Dropping it on the floor may cause the key to break off in the lock. But smacking Comrade627 AND the padlock a few times with the mallet may be a good idea. :mrgreen:

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The gunk in the drainage hole did look like hardened grease. If it is should I try to dislodge it with shock (mallet) or attempt to dissolve the grease do you think? If my efforts are not fruitful I may send it to you...
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Apr 2015 23:31

can you put it in boiling water in a pan submerged for a minute? maybe a little heat will get things moving?
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Mitchell S » 9 Apr 2015 23:36

Squelchtone wrote:can you put it in boiling water in a pan submerged for a minute? maybe a little heat will get things moving?


Can I do that? That's probably a good idea!

Can't wait to see the look on the wife's face when she comes into the kitchen and I tell her I am making her poached padlocks for dinner
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby VancouverSpecial71 » 9 Apr 2015 23:45

Mitchell S wrote:
Squelchtone wrote:can you put it in boiling water in a pan submerged for a minute? maybe a little heat will get things moving?


Can I do that? That's probably a good idea!

Can't wait to see the look on the wife's face when she comes into the kitchen and I tell her I am making her poached padlocks for dinner


Be sure to include some pics of your padlock soup :lol:
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby billdeserthills » 9 Apr 2015 23:52

Squelchtone wrote:
Comrade627 wrote:
Mitchell S wrote:Yeah the blasting with lines and solvents is my current plan. Might throw it in a petrol bath for a few days.

Or mail it to Squelchtone and get him to fix it for me :)

Yea you could always send it to him simply to stress him out. Surely he would reply with something like

"Well I fixed the lock and I'm sending it back, now let's get back on topic,

Thanks,
Squelchtone"

heh.


I recommend smacking Comrade627 AND the padlock a few times with the mallet like VancouverSpecial71 suggested. or even just drop it on the floor onto the body. Maybe I missed it but does the key turn and unlock it at all? Did it come that way with the key already inserted into the lock or did you insert the key?

Without breaking the key off, can you grab it with some pliers and rock it back and fourth to lock / unlock the cylinder using the pliers for added leverage?
Squelchtone


You probably missed the part where I was just going to send it to you to fix too! :)

To answer your questions the key came inserted and stuck. It doesn't turn or have even the slightest give. It is rock solid. As the key is brass I was worried about breaking they key off in the lock if I used pliers. Then it really would be game over.



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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby GWiens2001 » 10 Apr 2015 0:04

The padlock soup would be great for an iron-rich diet for heavy metal fans, not to mention being a pretty good idea for softening the grease without any real risk of damaging the o-ring. I nominate Squelchtone for another term as admin. :mrgreen:

And we NEED pics of the padlock soup.

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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Robotnik » 10 Apr 2015 0:51

GWiens2001 wrote:The padlock soup would be great for an iron-rich diet for heavy metal fans, not to mention being a pretty good idea for softening the grease without any real risk of damaging the o-ring. I nominate Squelchtone for another term as admin. :mrgreen:

And we NEED pics of the padlock soup.

Gordon


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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Squelchtone » 10 Apr 2015 1:11

just add pinch of Ingersalt.
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Mitchell S » 10 Apr 2015 1:29

Served on a mixed Greenleaf salad?
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Mitchell S » 10 Apr 2015 6:34

Ok!! It is Squelchtone for the win!!

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The key is out! Next issue, the key really doesn't want to go back in. All the levers feel completely seized up. On my other lock they are all delightfully springy.

What is the next plan to free up the guts of the lock people? Another soup?
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby GWiens2001 » 10 Apr 2015 6:55

Needs some diced Ruko, Sesamee seed and Miwa extract. Then you can be Master of the Fort, as long as you don't Hurd yourself.

You might need to poach that lock longer, then see if the levers free up.

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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby BSG_314159 » 10 Apr 2015 7:18

I had a 833c s&g that had a stuck key (would not even turn). I used lots and lots of WD40 it finally came out after many attempts.
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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Ingersoll Impregnable- stuck key!

Postby Mitchell S » 10 Apr 2015 7:20

BSG_314159 wrote:I had a 833c s&g that had a stuck key (would not even turn). I used lots and lots of WD40 it finally came out after many attempts.


Well I have they key out now, but the problem is that said key cannot be used to open the lock!
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