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What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby BSG_314159 » 12 Apr 2015 16:04

[quote="wrench214"thus i would assume this doesnt come from the factory, but crap was sprayed or poured, or found its way into the front of the lock, and only making contact with the first 3 key pins. the last 3 have none because they are in the back of the lock, protected by the first 3 pins! ahhhh, yes, i see it now.

i like gordons idea, of graphite and fluid of some sort like triflow (non oil based) or even WD40 (oil based)

WD40 can look like this after a month, when crap attachts it, thats why you dont want to use it. that and the key and driver pins can start to stick in the holes of the lock, making it nearly ineffective as a lock and stupid hard to pick[/quote]

I opened up another new one

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Pins 1 3 5

Explain that?
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby Comrade627 » 12 Apr 2015 16:33

Yep color coding thing, look here at the American ASL40N gov guts.
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby Big Jesse » 12 Apr 2015 16:42

BSG_314159 wrote:I opened up another new one
Explain that?


I humbly stand corrected, but i will stand by my lock fairy story till death!
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby BSG_314159 » 12 Apr 2015 18:00

wrench214 wrote:
BSG_314159 wrote:I opened up another new one
Explain that?


I humbly stand corrected, but i will stand by my lock fairy story till death!


I would expect nothing less!!!

(Latest pic of these dyed pins. This is from 5 locks)
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I bought a bunch of American pins so these ones are going in the garbage. Caused so much pain... all most as bad as a rusted/weathered lock .
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby GWiens2001 » 12 Apr 2015 18:15

wrench214 wrote:
BSG_314159 wrote:I opened up another new one
Explain that?


I humbly stand corrected, but i will stand by my lock fairy story till death!


When somebody is as heavily into martial arts as you are claims to be a fairy, I'm not going to judge or criticize. :P

Sorry, couldn't help but take the shot. No offense intended. :mrgreen:

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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby BSG_314159 » 12 Apr 2015 18:27

GWiens2001 wrote:
When somebody is as heavily into martial arts as you are claims to be a fairy, I'm not going to judge or criticize. :P

Sorry, couldn't help but take the shot. No offense intended. :mrgreen:

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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby Big Jesse » 13 Apr 2015 2:00

GWiens2001 wrote:
wrench214 wrote:
BSG_314159 wrote:I opened up another new one
Explain that?

I humbly stand corrected, but i will stand by my lock fairy story till death!

When somebody is as heavily into martial arts as you are claims to be a fairy, I'm not going to judge or criticize. :P
Sorry, couldn't help but take the shot. No offense intended. :mrgreen:
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No offense taken, all in a days work. screwing up one lock at a time.
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby GWiens2001 » 13 Apr 2015 7:41

wrench214 wrote:No offense taken, all in a days work. screwing up one lock at a time.


It's a dirty job, but somebody has got to do it. Usually me, but am willing to pass the torch to the next generation to keep the lock-screwing-up tradition alive. :twisted:

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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby couillion » 14 Apr 2015 23:54

There is a reference to "Colored American Lock Pins" in another forum posted 2-24-2015 that has a reply of "Some of them are powder coated with color as well, the entire pin not just the serrations." So if it is a powder coating, most anything liquid sprayed into the lock would eventually cause the coating to have a reaction or separate.
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby UnlockingBoredom » 18 Apr 2015 12:27

definately not powder coating as I can scratch it off my pins, Powder coating bonds to the metal it is baked on (I powder coat lead bullets for my rifles) This stuff on the American pins make it harder to pick as it is slick and lets the pins slide up too quickly and over set.
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby YouLuckyFox » 18 Apr 2015 12:53

GWiens2001 wrote:
wrench214 wrote:No offense taken, all in a days work. screwing up one lock at a time.


It's a dirty job, but somebody has got to do it. Usually me, but am willing to pass the torch to the next generation to keep the lock-screwing-up tradition alive. :twisted:

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That's true, I seem to remember a Schlage lock of yours all the pins at 9 depths.
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby GWiens2001 » 18 Apr 2015 19:49

YouLuckyFox wrote:
GWiens2001 wrote:
wrench214 wrote:No offense taken, all in a days work. screwing up one lock at a time.


It's a dirty job, but somebody has got to do it. Usually me, but am willing to pass the torch to the next generation to keep the lock-screwing-up tradition alive. :twisted:

Gordon


That's true, I seem to remember a Schlage lock of yours all the pins at 9 depths.


:lol: Ahh, yes. It was a LSDA padlock with a Yale keyway, but yeah. Hours picking it thinking there must be something wrong, tried impressioning it with four or five Y1 blanks before realizing it was a six pin lock (all the others on that board were five pin. Stuck in a Y2 blank (six pin Yale keyway) so I could impression it and the plug turned. Made me feel like an idjit. :oops:

That kind of experience is good for the ego. :mrgreen:

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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby cledry » 18 Apr 2015 23:53

This thread is hilarious. Coloured pins as a security feature. LOL I've heard it all now.
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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby YouLuckyFox » 19 Apr 2015 2:24

Don't be bashful, Gordon, I was referring to this gem (I guess looking back that my memory of the post was a bit exaggerated from the original):
GWiens2001 wrote:Oh, and I took apart the Schlage locks on the doors and removed the last driver and key pin, replacing them with a solid pin the same length as both pins combined, into which I machined a couple of grooves, so if they are being picked, it will feel like spool pins, but can never open. :twisted: I figure that most crooks will try bashing a window, but it is fun to picture them trying picking or bumping the lock!

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Re: What is this on my Driver Pins!!!!

Postby GWiens2001 » 19 Apr 2015 8:20

That is referring to the locks on the doors of my house. They are still set up the same way. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

There was a listing on evilBay that I was sorely tempted to jump on. Schlage Primus KIK cylinders (0 bitted) with two blanks each. They would fit the locks on my house, allowing a real key to work. But unlikely that someone skilled enough to pick that lock would be breaking into my house.

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