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by **NKT** » 21 May 2005 7:40

I watched my dad rip mine off my brother's car after he locked it on the steering wheel, then I needed the car, and the key was with my brother, many miles away!

Not sure why he locked it on there, but my dad just grabbed a hold and ripped it off. (Does simple brute force count as a bypass method?)

The lock was quite a nice tubular lock, I still have it, and the key. Picked it once with a scalpel and small screwdriver. Not very easy, as it needs lots of fiddling to get the tension.

Seems there are various different types about, with various different locks, anyway.

by **raimundo** » 21 May 2005 10:28

Yep, club has a lot of different types of cylinders, I have even seen a papaiz cruciform type.

by **NKT** » 21 May 2005 14:30

I've seen a club-a-like rip-off with the cruiciform key, but never a genuine club.

Perhaps they use different locks depending on who is selling what for the right price that buy-in, or they can see the advantage of different lock types to prevent a fatal security flaw in one type wiping out the security of the entire range.

by **parameter69** » 21 May 2005 15:22

zekeo wrote:Getting the club off your car:

I used to live in philadephia, and got my car stolen twice, once with a club on it. It turns out what most criminals do is cut the steering wheel. I hope this info isn't construed the wrong way, but if you really need to get the club off your car, it's much easier than attacking the club itself.

I have used a can of propellent (the brand name escapes me at the moment) that is normally used to freeze chewing gum that has become embeded in carpet to "freeze" one of the narrow areas of the club extention shaft. There are a series of milled sections that allow a ball bearing to wedge in to lock the shaft or shackle. The material is only case hardened and the propellent basically makes the sprayed on area brittle. An immediate and sharp rap with a ballpean hammer will break the shackle. I used this method after the customer attempted to pick the lock with various implements and had damaged the lock cylinder thereby rendering further picking attempts. My battery powered drill was dead. That left me with the propellent.

It worked fine and the steering wheel was not damaged in the least.

by **Ezer** » 21 May 2005 16:09

parameter69 wrote:I have used a can of propellent (the brand name escapes me at the moment) that is normally used to freeze chewing gum that has become embeded in carpet to "freeze" one of the narrow areas of the club extention shaft.

I have to use that stuff at work, but unless I'm bored or being attacked by a swarm of bees in the building (they started it), I have to actually use it as intended for removing gum. Did I mention I'm not too fond of kids?

The one I use is a mixture of isobutane and propane I think. The stuff smells awful, but press down on the top with enough pressure and you can freeze anything. You can get it at custodial supply shops and some hardware stores.

by **vector40** » 21 May 2005 19:23

Anyone know what the stuff's actually called? Would it work for, say, breaking the shackle on a padlock... or even snapping a cylinder out?

by **Ezer** » 21 May 2005 19:56

Never tried to do any of that with it, but when I get home from work tomorrow morning, I'll post the name of the stuff I use.

by **SFGOON** » 21 May 2005 20:06

Ezer wrote:
I have to use that stuff at work, but unless I'm bored or being attacked by a swarm of bees in the building (they started it), I have to actually use it as intended for removing gum. Did I mention I'm not too fond of kids?

HA HA HA HA!!! Have you tried a shot gun loaded with rock salt?

by **stick** » 21 May 2005 20:20

For some reason, I'm finding that SFGOON is posting some hilarious stuff today. :lol:

by **ThE_MasteR** » 21 May 2005 22:45

Anyone think this would actually open it ?

http://www.shomer-tec.com/site/product. ... D73B1B8BEA

by **Chucklz** » 21 May 2005 23:05

Ehh, it may, but again, put enough force on it and it will open. I have yet to freeze a lock open (LN2), but I haven't really tried any super low end stuff.

by **Ezer** » 22 May 2005 14:20

Here's the stuff I use.

http://www.for-sale-online.net/office-c ... er-ii.html

Once again, no idea if it would work or not on locks, but a tip for those unlucky enough to have to remove gum from carpet on a regular basis, if you work quickly enough this stuff can help prevent the gum from going deeper in the carpet while removing it.

by **n2oah** » 22 May 2005 15:41

vector40 wrote:Anyone know what the stuff's actually called? Would it work for, say, breaking the shackle on a padlock... or even snapping a cylinder out?

Yes, it is called freon, but liquid nitrogen is much more effiecent to use. I think freon is banned now so liquid nitrogen is your olny option. Liquid Nitrogen can be obtained at a local welding/chemical supply shop.

by **Chucklz** » 22 May 2005 16:49

Nah, the best places to get LN2 are hospitals, biology labs, and of course from the suppliers, Airgas etc. Don't play with it unless you have a basic understanding of gas laws, and cryo safety. Not hard, but the stuff can kill you.

by **n2oah** » 22 May 2005 18:50

Chucklz wrote:Nah, the best places to get LN2 are hospitals, biology labs, and of course from the suppliers, Airgas etc. Don't play with it unless you have a basic understanding of gas laws, and cryo safety. Not hard, but the stuff can kill you.

Airgas is a welding supplier. I could go for some dippin' dotz right about now.
Are you just going to walk into a hospital and ask for liquid nitrogen? :roll:

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