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Postby Chrispy » 5 Jun 2005 19:58

Ok, my apologies if I've upset anyone. I just noticed his signature picture was too big. I didn't mean to drag anyone else into this either (sorry cracksman & master) and I didn't want to sound righteous. Next time when a sig pic is too big, I won't say a thing. Sorry again. No hard feelings? :wink:

If there is no hex screw inside the shackle hole, you will have to cut the head (or point) off a small nail and insert the nail into the hole that you can see in the picture. Some hard knocks with a hammer and presto, the lock should come apart.

There was a post that was sort of about this a while back.... hang on....

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=7542&highlight=hole+padlock

Hope that helps.
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Postby cracksman » 5 Jun 2005 20:17

I thought the whole thing was rather funny :lol: Please don't apologize to me, I dragged myself into it :) I'd love to help bandit out anyway I can but, honestly, that's a big sig! Bandit can you please shrink it?

Oh, and bandit, the keyway you showed looks alot like a "Guard Security" 3-pin lock I picked off one of my students locker when she lost the key (am I the coolest teacher or what? ) 8) I still have that lock-sometimes it's more of a pain then my kwiksets! It's one of the ones (6 in total) I must pick before I go to sleep each night :oops: -yeah I know, I'm a loser :wink: but practice makes perfect
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Postby master in training » 5 Jun 2005 23:11

yeah, no need to apologise cracks, we made the posts, you didnt force anyone! ;)

bandit, a makers name and preferably model number would really help, most of the time you can just look into up on the maker website about locks. failing that refer to my first post in this thread...
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Postby skold » 6 Jun 2005 5:02

Chrispy wrote:Ok, my apologies if I've upset anyone. I just noticed his signature picture was too big. I didn't mean to drag anyone else into this either (sorry cracksman & master) and I didn't want to sound righteous. Next time when a sig pic is too big, I won't say a thing. Sorry again. No hard feelings? :wink:

If there is no hex screw inside the shackle hole, you will have to cut the head (or point) off a small nail and insert the nail into the hole that you can see in the picture. Some hard knocks with a hammer and presto, the lock should come apart.

There was a post that was sort of about this a while back.... hang on....

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=7542&highlight=hole+padlock

Hope that helps.


Mate..that is not what the holes are for, and it will not achieve anything by hammering a nail into the weep hole.. the locks are meant to come apart by drilling out retainers.
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Postby master in training » 6 Jun 2005 5:10

i took apart a padlock once, i just noticed a slightly differently coloured piece of brass on one side of the lock, so i took my drill do it, once it had gone though this little tiny tiny piece of metal came out, then i thought wtf :? so i opened the lock with the key to see if it still worked or if it took the cylinder out. didnt quite work....the shackle and spring shot across the room! good fun though :D you lock it to stuff and scare people when it shoots apart :lol:

if you really want to see it i can try scanning it, but i seem to remember just brutally hacking up the side of it with a drill (my only tool at the time) to try to get the cylinder out. still didnt come out though....
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Postby Chrispy » 6 Jun 2005 5:45

After checking my textbook, Skold, you are right. Drilling out retainers is the correct way to disassemble most padlocks. For some reason, when I took a small nail and hammered the shackle spring (which can be reached through that hole) the lock came apart and I could remove the cylinder. I thought this was how to disassemble all padlocks. I was mistaken. :oops:
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Postby 1 Armed Bandit » 6 Jun 2005 19:57

I like my sig the way it is you guys.

WOAH ITS A PICTURE AND ITS 40 PIXELS TOO BIG! SOMEONE CALL AN EXORCIST TO CLEANSE MY SPIRIT!

like seriously guys, quit being such jerks

Anyways, i like lock picking.
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Postby stick » 6 Jun 2005 20:29

And it doesn't matter if that's the way you like it, because its against the rules, and mod will edit it, need be.
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Postby cracksman » 6 Jun 2005 20:40

Bandit, I was not trying to be a jerk, I was attempting, in a joking way, to let you know we have rules...please follow them. If you had changed your sig perhaps this discussion would be opening that little brass lock of yours. If you like your sig the way it is great :) , I am sure there are plenty of sights that accept bigger sigs. If you want to discuss lockpicking and get some excellent advice from people, then just follow the rules and shrink it down a bit...if you don't I doubt anyone will respond to you in the future-it's nothin personal, I'd like you to pick that lock, probably almost as much as you do :)
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Postby 1 Armed Bandit » 7 Jun 2005 16:57

alright, no harm done
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Postby pretender » 11 Jun 2005 5:51

take it from the visual designer and former printer and stuff - your collective signatures look like crap. i, personally wouldn't care less about such things if they simply looked okay. we have a guy with a key that looks like he spent entirely too much time in photoshop with a bevel tool, another guy that thinks putting text on a really bad 'blueprint' works - c'mon.

fix your own sigs before you talk about rules - if anything, one should apply wherein you do as good a job on expressing yourself as you have with picking locks. i expect we all have broadband connections, it shouldn't be that big a deal. make signatures people will like and let the dialup people cope.

in my experience, padlocks usually aren't made to be taken apart - you get a couple few models that are, but from a business perspective it just isn't worthwhile to engineer those things into one. non-destructive testing just doesn't work - get the dremel and the sledgehammer, i guess.

btw, it takes about 5 minutes to cut through a shackle with a dremel and a cutoff wheel. :)
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Postby Chrispy » 11 Jun 2005 21:38

take it from the visual designer and former printer and stuff - your collective signatures look like crap.

Good for you buddy. Normally we don't put other people down on this site, and if we do, it's constructive criticism.

we have a guy with a key that looks like he spent entirely too much time in photoshop with a bevel tool, another guy that thinks putting text on a really bad 'blueprint' works - c'mon.

To each his own, pretender. If you don't like it, tough.

i expect we all have broadband connections, it shouldn't be that big a deal. make signatures people will like and let the dialup people cope.

Not everyone has broadband. It's also not a matter of what people will like, it the fact that his sig pic was TOO BIG.

I trust that you will enjoy your time here at LP101 and find the site informative and helpful. If you have any questions or queries you can either PM a mod (they love that :D ) or post a thread. Welcome to LP101.
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Postby NKT » 12 Jun 2005 12:42

The whole sig thing exists so that people don't get stupid.

We have all been to newsgroups and boards where some clown has said "Me too!" but his sig is a three pager with three pictures in it. It is a waste of diskspace and bandwidth, and, more importantly, our time.

Bandwidth isn't free to most people, and time certainly isn't. :roll:
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Postby cracksman » 12 Jun 2005 15:14

we have a guy with a key that looks like he spent entirely too much time in photoshop with a bevel tool


Pretender, I assume your talking about me, first thanks for the insult, way to win friends and influence people :roll:

P.S.- the pic is actually a real medieval key, I just added text (thought it was interesting and wondered what the lock would have looked like). Unfortunately, however, the craftsman that made the key has been dead for many centuries so you won't have a chance to insult him as well :lol:
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Postby toomush2drink » 12 Jun 2005 16:25

Comon guys keep it nice ,yes rules are there for a reason and sigs are in the rules. No need to start flaming others for their sigs if its not up to your personal standards this is a hapy community :D
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