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by G-lock » 8 Feb 2017 17:41
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by OrMeanGene » 8 Feb 2017 20:50
G-lock wrote:OrMeanGene wrote:Bouncing around in this pile of locks. Bilock is only one without a key. I havent opened a few yet, but getting closer. Couple medecos, primus, highly paracentric restricted keyway on lockwood.  Mean Gene
Nice bunch of locks, i hear those bilocks are very hard to pick.
Its my first bilock, and no key. I havent gotten it open yet, it's difficult. I will say it is very much a fun lock to pick on
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by GWiens2001 » 8 Feb 2017 21:59
OrMeanGene wrote:Bouncing around in this pile of locks. Bilock is only one without a key. I havent opened a few yet, but getting closer. Couple medecos, primus, highly paracentric restricted keyway on lockwood.  Mean Gene
Man, I'm jealous of that BiLock padlock, with or without a key! Have an Abus with a BiLock NG core, but nothing says 'cool' like an actual BiLock padlock. Gordon
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by G-lock » 9 Feb 2017 9:47
Eazy123 wrote:G-lock wrote: got these opened today.
That <censored> Stanley gives me the flux, lol. Constantly dropping pins, much like the Abus Titalium I'm also working on. Can't get either open yet.
 I take back what i said about the stanley being a easy pick. I picked open the other stanley that came with the set i bought this morning. although it was keyed the same & with the same security pins, it was much, much harder to pick. I would even go as far as to say its the most difficult lock ive picked. The design of the pins catch perfectly on the ledge milled into the plug and when they do it feels like i hit a wall with my hook. Then to free it up almost every set pin drops back down. Took me almost 2hours to pick this one.
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by femurat » 10 Feb 2017 9:16
Eazy123 wrote:Really? I'm finding the opposite. In fact my m3 with a single pin inside is proving a pain to turn.
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I use my Peterson gem for almost all my locks. My deforest diamond is my backup. I usually do the "come hither" move from behind to turn the pins.
I use an homemade half diamond. I use it along one side of the keyhole to push and pull the side of a pin tip. So our techniques are quite similar. I suggest you add a couple pins, maybe only one pin is binding too much and that's why it's so difficult to turn. Cheers 
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by OrMeanGene » 10 Feb 2017 15:30
GWiens2001 wrote:OrMeanGene wrote:Bouncing around in this pile of locks. Bilock is only one without a key. I havent opened a few yet, but getting closer. Couple medecos, primus, highly paracentric restricted keyway on lockwood.  Mean Gene
Man, I'm jealous of that BiLock padlock, with or without a key! Have an Abus with a BiLock NG core, but nothing says 'cool' like an actual BiLock padlock. Gordon
I agree. Its got a classy feel lol. Im kicking around getting the abus with bilock from securitysnobs.
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by OrMeanGene » 10 Feb 2017 15:34
femurat wrote:Eazy123 wrote:Really? I'm finding the opposite. In fact my m3 with a single pin inside is proving a pain to turn.
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I use my Peterson gem for almost all my locks. My deforest diamond is my backup. I usually do the "come hither" move from behind to turn the pins.
I use an homemade half diamond. I use it along one side of the keyhole to push and pull the side of a pin tip. So our techniques are quite similar. I suggest you add a couple pins, maybe only one pin is binding too much and that's why it's so difficult to turn. Cheers 
How big is your diamond? Im going between different picks trying to find a good option for turn pins. Right now i use a homemade lifter type. Haven't foundbest option yet
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by Eazy123 » 10 Feb 2017 17:14
femurat wrote:Eazy123 wrote:Really? I'm finding the opposite. In fact my m3 with a single pin inside is proving a pain to turn.
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I use my Peterson gem for almost all my locks. My deforest diamond is my backup. I usually do the "come hither" move from behind to turn the pins.
I use an homemade half diamond. I use it along one side of the keyhole to push and pull the side of a pin tip. So our techniques are quite similar. I suggest you add a couple pins, maybe only one pin is binding too much and that's why it's so difficult to turn. Cheers 
I went in there with a flashlight and sure enough they do turn - not much but they do turn. Maybe that's the way they're supposed to be. I had always figured they turned a full 360 degrees. Once I took it apart and learned a bit about the slider in there (and for about half an hour, lost the spring keeping it in, lol), I've managed to get it picked with two pins in it now. Moving to three.
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by OrMeanGene » 10 Feb 2017 17:58
Today im picking through my abus 83s in probably every keyway they came in... , couple abus dimples, renaurd dimple, master 230, challenge schlage and my newest addition the sexy Ruko. 
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by Eazy123 » 10 Feb 2017 20:24
OrMeanGene wrote:Today im picking through my abus 83s in probably every keyway they came in... , couple abus dimples, renaurd dimple, master 230, challenge schlage and my newest addition the sexy Ruko. 
What would you say is a good beginner dimple lock? I just ordered a dimple pick set and have a Kaba aura but that's a cabinet lock and I'm sure I'll be able to get that open too easily.
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by OrMeanGene » 10 Feb 2017 21:14
Eazy123 wrote:OrMeanGene wrote:Today im picking through my abus 83s in probably every keyway they came in... , couple abus dimples, renaurd dimple, master 230, challenge schlage and my newest addition the sexy Ruko. 
What would you say is a good beginner dimple lock? I just ordered a dimple pick set and have a Kaba aura but that's a cabinet lock and I'm sure I'll be able to get that open too easily.
I like yardeni cylinders or similar. You can pull the top off and tap the chamber. Then progressive pick. I started with abus and that was very bad. Tough pick. We have a member named jimu who i believe sells practice cylinders
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by femurat » 11 Feb 2017 3:39
OrMeanGene wrote:How big is your diamond? Im going between different picks trying to find a good option for turn pins. Right now i use a homemade lifter type. Haven't foundbest option yet
It's just a hair moire than 3mm. 1/8 of an inch i guess. And is quite a steep diamond. Dunno if the pictures of my picked medecos with the picks i used are still showing on this thread. I'll look for them and reupload them if needed. Cheers 
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by tpark » 11 Feb 2017 18:51
Eazy123 wrote:Not exactly a pick, per se - but I pinned my first IC core from scratch and filed operating and control keys for it. They both need a bit of smoothing out on the edges though  
Great job! now all you need is a punch, and you'll be set.
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by Eazy123 » 11 Feb 2017 20:17
tpark wrote:Eazy123 wrote:Not exactly a pick, per se - but I pinned my first IC core from scratch and filed operating and control keys for it. They both need a bit of smoothing out on the edges though  
Great job! now all you need is a punch, and you'll be set.
Thanks! All I need is a reason to justify the cost of an A2 punch first...lol
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