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by huxleypig » 31 Mar 2017 12:33
DangerDane wrote:
So its basically very easy to pick since you don't have to care about the magnets as well?. If thats the case, then the lock doesn't seem that safe or secure...
Oh good God no, the magnets are the security in this lock, big time. It's as close to impossible as I have ever seen. Clearly, it isn't impossible because nothing is , but this lock is incredibly good. It's still more secure than anything else, without a doubt.
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by OrMeanGene » 31 Mar 2017 22:05
Squelchtone wrote:OrMeanGene wrote: How can anyone post their picked American 1100 after that post...
I know right? I guess if everyone is showing off their MCS picking skills, here's me picking a Medeco cam lock with 1 hand. and then getting the wrench stuck.... Squelchtone
Geez.. at least he got it open i guess. If your gonna break it though, id rather spp for last shot. Gordon That dollar store pick is awesome lol
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by nite0wl » 3 Apr 2017 0:06
Less impressive than the last few but pretty good for roadside finds. Burg Wächter 116/40 Profis (Want to make keys for them if I can find generic versions of the 66R/L blanks for them) a shrouded Zone which had heavy rusting on the shackle toe and a Master V-Line 140 Each one full of spools. 
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by DangerDane » 5 Apr 2017 3:34
Huxley,
If the magnets are the security in the lock, then how come someone can pick it without ever dealing with the magnets?
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by Squelchtone » 5 Apr 2017 10:37
DangerDane wrote:Huxley,
If the magnets are the security in the lock, then how come someone can pick it without ever dealing with the magnets?
I think it has come out that there is a small magnet glued to the tip of the pick. I had the same question when I first saw a clip of it being picked.
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by G-lock » 5 Apr 2017 11:04
Squelchtone wrote:DangerDane wrote:Huxley,
If the magnets are the security in the lock, then how come someone can pick it without ever dealing with the magnets?
I think it has come out that there is a small magnet glued to the tip of the pick. I had the same question when I first saw a clip of it being picked.
Its much more difficult & complicated than it seems in the video. I am waiting for the video of the gen 2. I also might add that i am unsure if this method will work on a gen 1 with the plastic rotors. I've asked if they move & respond to manipulation the same as the metal rotors. But he either does not want to answer my question or doesn't care. Either way it makes me think that they are different. I notice some pretty big differences between the two if im correct.
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by G-lock » 5 Apr 2017 11:40
I should be more clear. When i said "he" i ment the maker of the video not huxley.
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by GWiens2001 » 5 Apr 2017 14:08
It should not matter, since both use magnets to rotate the rotors.
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by Eazy123 » 5 Apr 2017 19:47
huxleypig wrote:]
Oh good God no, the magnets are the security in this lock, big time. It's as close to impossible as I have ever seen. Clearly, it isn't impossible because nothing is <censored>,.
Have you picked a Bowley? Not being a smart aleck but if anyone could pick one it's you.
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by Ralph_Goodman » 6 Apr 2017 11:32
Eazy123 wrote:huxleypig wrote:]
Oh good God no, the magnets are the security in this lock, big time. It's as close to impossible as I have ever seen. Clearly, it isn't impossible because nothing is <censored>,.
Have you picked a Bowley? Not being a smart aleck but if anyone could pick one it's you.
Does anyone have any plans to pick the Bowley? Any ideas on how to attack it?
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by huxleypig » 6 Apr 2017 21:52
Ralph_Goodman wrote:Eazy123 wrote:huxleypig wrote:]
Oh good God no, the magnets are the security in this lock, big time. It's as close to impossible as I have ever seen. Clearly, it isn't impossible because nothing is <censored>,.
Have you picked a Bowley? Not being a smart aleck but if anyone could pick one it's you.
Does anyone have any plans to pick the Bowley? Any ideas on how to attack it?
I never had a Bowley to play with but I am convinced it can be opened trivially. This sounds like bollocks, I know, but I have a list of 22 things that I think would open a Bowley. Some of them are variations on the same theme but there are probably about 12 different techniques that I think would work. I am not convinced it has been tested effectively against bumping even yet, Bosnian Bill's bump key was never, ever going to work for a whole load of reasons. But I do think it can be bumped. The simplest techniques are the best and I've never been much of a bumper. The simplest things I can think of for the Bowley require 1) nothing and 2) a paper clip. This would be in addition to a shaved-down key (although this could be fabricated if you did not have a key to kill). This lock simply has not been in the hands of many people to be tested properly. MH did the foil impressioning and that showed up a pretty big weakness but you can bet your ass there are plenty more.
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by adi_picker » 15 Apr 2017 21:17
NSW SRA Lever Lock.  Gift from a friend on my recent travels, my first lever lock pick! Fairly simple, only had 3 levers rather than the 6 advertised on the body, if that's whats implied by the S and L in the circular stamps. This one had lost its pin the the keyway, so I was able to improvise a bolt thrower from an old pin key I had lying around, luckily, as I have no pipe keys that would suit on hand. Started by trying with a bit of coathanger wire for the bolt thrower, but this wasn't strong enough. Coathanger also for my pick wire, levered from the bottom of the keyway once the bolt thrower had been inserted and turned. A lot of fun, picked semi blind, as I could just make out the bolt and levers through the keyhole. adi_picker
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by adi_picker » 17 Apr 2017 2:50
More Medecos.  I have some spare BiAxial pins, so I threaded the bottom cylinder and have been using it as a practice lock, with different bittings each time I pick it. Top lock is one of my KA Medecos. adi_picker
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by OrMeanGene » 18 Apr 2017 16:41
Picked best WA or WC i forget which (got both) to control, fab 200rs, ruko 500 and 600 cams. 
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