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by illusion » 24 Nov 2005 10:53
Bluewater sucks...
I had to take my hooded jumper when I went there last because apprently they are used in connection with theft...
I mean a hooded-jumper FFS!!!
Don't know if it is still happening, because it's been a few months since I last went there 
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by Auto45 » 24 Nov 2005 11:09
I have only seen photos (or in TV shows) of wheel clamps, are they using them in California? 
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by jason » 24 Nov 2005 11:13
I don't know about the hoodies, my son is 7 and wasn't asked to remove his when we went there
sledgehammers make excellent back up picks!
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by Dark Angel » 24 Nov 2005 13:34
if you dont want to be clamped then simply get yourself one of the green compressed gas stickers and put it in the corner of your windscreen.
As far as i know it is ilegal for anyone to clamp a vehicle with one of these stickers showing on the vehicle.
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by Chance » 24 Nov 2005 15:42
Dark Angel wrote:if you dont want to be clamped then simply get yourself one of the green compressed gas stickers and put it in the corner of your windscreen. As far as i know it is ilegal for anyone to clamp a vehicle with one of these stickers showing on the vehicle.
Does it also stopped anyone from towing a car? Because wouldn't that be the next logical progression?
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by Dark Angel » 24 Nov 2005 15:56
Afraid Not
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by Chrispy » 25 Nov 2005 3:04
jason wrote:I don't know about the hoodies, my son is 7 and wasn't asked to remove his when we went there
Unless your seven year old looks like a burglar..... 
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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by jason » 25 Nov 2005 7:36
I've bought him a little 9" crowbar so he can be just like daddy when he has a bad picking day (the "Bob the Builder" plastic cordless drill just doesn't cut the mustard anymore at school!)
sledgehammers make excellent back up picks!
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by Chrispy » 25 Nov 2005 7:44
He'll be cracking safes by the time he's 12. 
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by scampdog » 16 Apr 2006 19:18
Could someone clarify this for me, being a lockie,when i fit a lock to some ones house,that lock instantly becomes the property of the householder,even if he hasn't paid for it,if i try to take the lock back, i could end up facing the old bill in court. Surely then,this being a fair and democratic country(laughs up sleeve),once a clamp is fitted to my property(my car),then the clamp becomes my property,to do with as i see fit.
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by Shrub » 16 Apr 2006 19:38
Well the lock you have fitted to someones house remains your property until it is paid for and the clamp is the clampers property regardless, the new licensing laws will/should make this clear.
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by Raccoon » 16 Apr 2006 20:02
I agree with scampdog in that respect, and find it reprehensible that a country would recognize the wheel clamp into law. Next they'll expect drivers to pay bums after they spray and wipe down your windows without asking.
In my humble opinion, ANY private property which becomes affixed to or contained within my larger-more-expensive private property, simply becomes mine to keep and own.
On that same token, if you park in my driveway, your car now belongs to me and I will start removing pieces from it.
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by NKT » 16 Apr 2006 21:33
That doesn't work, because they are not attaching the device to the car, they are simply keeping the car in one place. It is a subtle distinction, but it is there. Otherwise they would simply remove a wheel from your car and bolt a triangle in it's place. If they touch the car they are commiting a trepass against it, and hence you.
The idea about the notice removing consent for a clamp to be fitted is an interesting trick. I would hope (perhaps niavely) that a sign saying "Locksmith on call at No. 34" would stop most dodgy wheel clampers.
I've never been clamped, though my other half got mine clamped once. The manager/staff of the local Maplin electronics store told the clamper to take the clamp off, and to add the plate to the "Never clamp" list! I guess spending all that time in there paid off! 
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by Raccoon » 16 Apr 2006 23:17
If the clamp isn't being attached to the car, then why can't I shift into 4 wheel drive and roll over it. It's more than just an obstruction, it's an attachment, and rotates with the wheels thus causing damage to the body and axle.
Sounds like England is having parking issues. Have you guys ever considered parking meters, parking garages, or perhaps, mass-transit?
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by scampdog » 17 Apr 2006 5:53
surely according to NKT, if they are attatching the clamp, to keep the car in one place, then they are preventing you from moving the vehicle, from what they deem to be a hazardous or obstructional position,thus causing more confusion.
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