List of security pins in locks.

[cjames73]

thanks NIC, there was a supplier in the UK that had the american locks but has now stopped

i'll look on ebay but most want to sell you 6+ locks and not many will ship to the UK.

[JackNco]

I got 6 shipped to the UK and i have one left. PM me an offer
American 1105 in blue, new in Box with 2 keys.

[NIC]

See, now every ones happy !!

[LockNewbie21]

Heres a few diffrent ones.
The top is what is left of my Winkhaus the top right is in a DOM Rn 5 pin, the bottom are both from an abus XP1 double, Left is the exterior, and right is interior. To add for the XP1 there are also elements in the plug that cannot be removed without the intigrity of the lock destryoed.

Here's a shot of the winkhaus rim... RIP Killer warding though



Medeco payphone vault pins (props to skyuler for sending it out.)

[mcm757207]

I don't have too much detail on this lock or any pics, but maybe this can be useful to someone sometime. Today I came across a 6-pin mortise cylinder with 3 mushroom pins. The keyway was odd, I didn't recognize it, but the face of the plug had "mx" stamped above the keyway. Not an impossible pick, but the corrugated keyway combined with the mushrooms makes it a serious pain.

Yay now I feel like I made a positive contribution to this thread. Back to lurking...

[tecnovist]

Hi-- i am new I do hobby locksmithing to keep my tools safe --- What i would like to know is how to stop any one picking those locks --- like were do i get stronger springs from -- and will that work

[Jaakko]

Hi-- i am new I do hobby locksmithing to keep my tools safe --- What i would like to know is how to stop any one picking those locks --- like were do i get stronger springs from -- and will that work

It will not stop anyone from picking your locks, it mainly introduces more wear and tear on the pins and the key.

If you want bump-proof and virtually pick-proof, go with Abloy Protec. Other good bump-proof is Bi-Lock, which is somewhat cheaper.

[poor paperclip picker]

this is a very helpful post about security pins, i havent encountered many in my few months of hobby locksmithing, but hopefully i will encounter more, and this guide is a great spot to check out info on them.
thanks

[tecnovist]

Hi --- all my first post interesting place this ---- what i would like to know is will strong er springs make the locks harder to pick --- and were can i buy springs made fron heaver wire prefer stainless steel --- if its ok to ask that--- Thanks

[tecnovist]

Ok i see it s not my first post looks like that others worked to well was having troble post last time can some one delete the others thanks --

[Globalinsanity]

Anyone have the guts of a Best Access Systems 6 pin padlock?

[Globalinsanity]

This is the lock I am having trouble with. It is from Best Access Systems and has 6 pins from what I can feel. I've heard that they are all security pins, but I am unsure as to which type of security is being implemented in this case. I'm trying to single pin pick this deadbolt, with no luck so far. I have varied the tension tremendously from feather light to quite heavy.

If anyone can post the innards of a Best padlock, or even door lock for that matter, I'd be delighted, as I am trying to take my practicing to the next level.

Apologies for the terrible phone camera quality. The only distinctive markings are the Best logo on the body and the string of characters "&1 2CF4" engraved above the plug. Thanks again!

[Globalinsanity]

Alright. Ironically enough, mission accomplished. I was able to pick this lock, and pick it consistently. I managed to open it seven times within the last half hour, my record being 1.5 minutes.

My method is as follows:
I used a standard rake only.
I applied extremely light tension while giving the lock about 6 rakes from inside to the outside. I also used pretty light pressure with the rake while doing this. After these initial scrubs, I very very carefully, and with light pressure of the pick, individually felt out each pin. After feeling one set with this light tension and pressure, I increased the tension to a very high point while raking once more, increasing the picking pressure in relation to the tension. About 6 full sweeps this way. Then back to single pin picking once more, only this time leaving the pressure and tension very high. This is when the remaining pin is usually found, which opens the lock.

In summary, it came down to tension variation as a necessity (light to strong), as well as increased finesse when picking each pin, as I was careful not to lodge the key pins into the driver shaft, which I realized was a problem in my earlier attempts.


I'm still interested in seeing the pins in this bad boy, of course, but wanted to share my experience with it. Time to celebrate with a beer I think.

[DeeRav]

Yale PA438






Six pins. First pin (closest to key) is standard, followed by five security spools, with serrated pin drivers on pins three four and six.

[Azazel]

Here are the security pins in a Kryptonite

The Lock
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s189 ... ure004.jpg

The pins

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s189 ... ure003.jpg

That is insane! I never knew that so many security features could be put in a single lock!! That is an awesome lock!